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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / DFAF Explanation of Forum removal
« on: November 02, 2002, 12:57:00 PM »
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Those people are hiding something, I know it, now you know it, for all the doubters out there. This is some serious shit. HAHAHA If the general public accesses the forum, they get the above message. I would imagine that the DFAF does not look too good right about now. Well, keep checking back for updates, I love breaking news....  MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / DFAF page
« on: November 02, 2002, 12:53:00 PM »
here's the explanation about the forum debacle at DFAF's website


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / New Forum From the People who Founded Straight?
« on: November 02, 2002, 12:04:00 PM »
You got that right, DFAF is running scared now. I hope this is a sign of things to come. I am writing to the white house, they may be interested to know about their DFAF buddies censoring partially public property. By closing the forum, could they be admitting all of our stories to be true and this action of theirs may be a godsend of sorts? MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Life 82 reguarding your post to me about Sue Cookson found
« on: October 31, 2002, 11:33:00 AM »
Look at the bright side, just think, when that asteroid hits the earth, it won't matter anymore anyway! MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / What do you know about brainwashing?
« on: October 31, 2002, 11:16:00 AM »
In order to unbrainwash yourself, time has to pass, your thoughts including the straight lingo, philosophy, etc. will fade. It may take a conscious effort on your part, not something like subliminal messages at night while you sleep. Some of the effects will remain until our bodies expire, which leads me to think that this could be a main cause of so many straight, inc suicides. I have been on the side of success and lately, unsuccess. Normal people have that problem too. That's just life. There shouldn't have to be a reason why all the time, or at least you shouldn't worry about why so much.
I have a habit of invoking controversy amongst others, I apologize. I never intend to do that, but sometimes it happens anyway. I don't really mind talking about brainwashing, I just wonder if I can help, you know, being a fellow recipient of this mind control therapy. Maybe we will meet at the conference next year, or the 1st annual bonfire, and can discuss over hot coffee or whatever. Happy Halloween, MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / What do you know about brainwashing?
« on: October 30, 2002, 11:25:00 PM »
That was me that posted that statement recently. Most likely on the yoohoo site. I apologize for sounding rediculous, but were you in Straight, Inc? I am curious now, because there was so much brainwashing going on that I find it hard to believe that you need proof or further explanation. I will answer your question, however, based on my experience at Springfield and hopefully my answer will ring some bells and you will understand. I have not seen a psychiatrist or doctor since leaving that place. Except for having my finger reattached, of course.'
Do you remember Rational Self Mastery? Think rational, Think Rational, Think Rational... and so on and so on. Uhm, OK, "How do you feel about that?" 689,344,289 times. "Talk about yourself, not others" No TV, No Radio, No school, stupid ass rules that, over time, wear on the human psyche and become ingrained as actual beliefs. When I was in there, I was 21 and not so easily convinced, but eventually became a (shhh, dont tell anyone...) straightling, so much that I 7th stepped. To this day, I catch myself saying "I feel like shit, or I feel tired, WHAT? Tired? THAT IS NOT A FEELING! HAVE A SEAT! LOL... Or, I will speak at another person about what I do,.. like this: "You put the acid in the water, not the other way around.">>>ooops, I'm sorry, "I put the......"  Heaven forbid I should refer to myself as "you". It is only in all the English books. I guess english teachers never went to straight inc. It has been 19.5 years, so I figure it still affects me. I read about this bullshit on brainwashing on the internet, of all places. LOL. I put in Brainwashing in the search box on AOL and got about a million links. You know, I would be suprised if we weren't some godawful experiment victims of Mel Sembler and his partners. They couldn't use LSD to coerce us, so they used warehouses and flourescent lights.   Which branch were you in?   MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Clearing the air
« on: October 27, 2002, 09:32:00 AM »
Well, I would really like to call you by name, lord knows mine is all over the internet here now.
I talked to the former director of Springfield straight, inc. back in July. I went to his boss first and told him that Dr Riddile was in straight inc as a director and that I had some questions for him. Shit rolls downhill, so naturally, Dr Riddile fessed up! I had him explain the position he was in, which he described as being not happy with what was giong on and that eventually led him to resign. BUT!!! He is FOS. He was appointed the director in charge of setting up straights in the other cities, like Boston, Dallas, etc. He did say he would help us if we could come up with a game plan. I have not started a campaign to contact parents, but it makes sense. If you were to identify yourself, even a private email or something to [email protected], I would be happy to confer with you regarding what else we can and will do to bring some closure to this thing called straight, inc.
It bugs me when a highly opinionated post is marked anonymous. It kind of takes away a certain amount of the poster's credibility so to speak. If potential offense is not warranted, then it should not be introduced. I am not usually offended merely by words, so it is OK to say anything you want! MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / To All Straight Survivors
« on: October 27, 2002, 09:17:00 AM »
OK anonymous, but at least we have evolved enough to place a name on our existence. What genus of creature are you?
Not to sound too straightlike, but BE SPECIFIC. What about this forum appears to be going downhill? Why are you able to describe us as being other than human while you have no face?
 When dealing with survivors of bad cults, it is entirely possible that the victims, including myself, could have had their minds altered to the point where normal thoughts are unable to be processed. I have researched brainwashing enough to know that it can take up to 20 or more years to wear off. In the meantime anonymous, I would suggest placing a face of some type on your existence in this forum, otherwise, your statements may become moot points floating in cyberspace. I think it's time for a brake job, that's an awfully long hill up ahead!   MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Morgan Y. building late night thought
« on: October 26, 2002, 12:10:00 AM »
Hey Life 82, what's up? You sound like you might be a bit discouraged by what you are seeing and hearing here. You got to do what works for you. If other people seem not to care, then fuckem, you know? Jeez. I went into the gung-ho mode and helped get a reunion together here in Virginia. Since then, no calls, boring, seemingly dead movement, ignoring, fuckin with people, just plain bullshit. Where's the movers and shakers? Probably still lurking in the shadows. I guarantee if someone succeeds in getting Sembler and Co. to fork over some serious dough for our troubles, then there will be a lot of "Hey, I was there" people coming out of the woodwork. It would be nice if they would do this now, but it just aint happenin that way. Well, we shall see. It will take time. DOn't give up. I know you or I can't make people care, but they might be the wrong people to tell in the first place. One positive note, one of the Reunion attendees told me he was ready to kill himself one last time, after a couple unsuccesful attempts, then someone called him about this Reunion and he couldn't pass it up. After the event died down, he came over to me and thanked me for about 5 minutes about how knowing other people who were in the program cared enough this many years later to meet and talk about issues that we deal with in the present, as well as the past. Basically it saved his life, at least for the time being. This may be something to work on in your area. Try to get a meeting of surviving clients and just BS about life in general. Hope this helps, or whatever, I am dedicated activist in the Movement, I will not give up. BTW... I wish Clay and I could get along.... I miss his posts on the other site.  MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / another bad thing
« on: October 25, 2002, 11:45:00 PM »
I remember quite vividly what it felt like to be sitting indian style on the tile floor jam packed inside a fuckin 10X10 room with no ventilation at all for at least 3 hours with 30 fellow newcomers. Apparently some asshole had brought a tylenol into group and they wanted to know who it was. Of course, we were fuckin newcomers, so how the hell were we supposed to do it? Seems like they should have had the oldcomers in there too. The worst part, aside from the extreme knee pain, was the fact that after about an hour, the sweat on the walls had accumulated on the floor in sweat puddles that deepened with time and when we were allowed back into group, our pants were all soaked with each other's sweat. HOLY SHIT! IF that aint a fuckin nightmare, nothin is! Executive raps were the worst. Indian style for 3 hours, sit up straight, get confronted for stretching legs, numb asses, that's rediculous to have us sitting like that. PERIOD!   MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Letter Writing Campaign
« on: October 22, 2002, 12:25:00 AM »
Sounds like a winner. People in the theater would be glued to their seat, thinking they were in a damn insane asylum from hell! BTW what ever happened to Radley Balko? Did he get sued or something for saying something about Betty Sembler? I have not seen any straight, inc stuff on his site for a while. A movie would be great though.
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello everyone! ...Atlanta Straight alumni here....
« on: October 22, 2002, 12:19:00 AM »
OK, So where does Ralph Treciokas fit in at Atlanta. he told me he was dispatched to Atlanta to fix some problems for a couple weeks. Is that what really happened. Only answer if you KNOW. Thanks, MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Atlanta, GA Straight, Inc...Anyone left saved from suicide?
« on: October 20, 2002, 12:38:00 AM »
Hello, I am William from Virginia. Springfield, 83-85. I know of about 11 suicides from Wes's site, and heard about a couple personally. I built a memorial to the victims before the reunion we had last August. I did not have any names from any other branch. Also, we protested in DC last July and carried signs with names of the Va suicide victims at the Italian Embassy for the vigil. This is very disturbing to me, to know that other branches also had several suicides. Wes Fager's site covers most of them, but this is news to me, and maybe to him as well. My personal belief is that these people would most likely still be alive had it not been for Straight, Inc. For that reason, I am pursuing the responsible parties until I am satisfied that justice has been done. I have been cautioned that these monsters that created Straight, Inc are some nasty characters and may bring harm or otherwise negative responses to my existence. I am fully prepared to accept any challenges that come my way. If someone from Atlanta, Detroit, Cinci, etc. would Please post a list of the victims from other branches in one post, or I can get it from Wes, then I can add it to the memorial here in Midland Virginia. Thank you, MG8.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Anyone Else From 5515 Backlick Road ??
« on: October 17, 2002, 06:14:00 PM »
Hi Alex, Bill Earnshaw, here. I remember you and I were there in Springfield at the same time. Many years have passed. We had a reunion last August, sorry you didn't know or whatever. Next one will be coming up in 2003. I am glad to see more people coming in and hope to read more of your posts soon. I was jamming with Scott last week up there at his place. Nothin special, just playing guitar and him playing drums. I am a PC recycler, so if you know where I can get old trash computers, etc... let me know. I mine gold out of them.  MG8

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Former staff forgivable??
« on: October 17, 2002, 06:01:00 PM »
Let's put the staff into categories. I know that I wanted to be a staff member because they got to stomp on people without even touching them. Hmm, maybe I missed my calling there, oh well. Is there a staff member reading this who never gave anyone a consequence? That is a category right there. I would question anyone who did not. I perceive the staff members at straight, inc. as in the category of "insulation". Executives needed space between them and the victims. As the future staff members were molded in group, the existing ones essentially created a barrier between the execs and the kids. How many times did I try to say something to a junior staff member and was motioned to shush! I could NEVER talk to a staff member about anything at all. I would have to get permission from a 5th phaser, then if he thought it was worthy, then he would send it up. Well, whatever, that's old news now. Don't think for a minute that staff members were hunky dory people in those warehouses. They all share the gestapo label in my book. Typically, Even as people sentenced to die are lined up at the firing squad, there are a few guards that would offer last cigarettes.   MG8

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