Listen. A lot of people might try and shut down this website but it just isn't going to EVER happen. That "nob pusher" as you call him does not and should not give a fuck what somebody else thinks about what he says.
This site does play an important social role, you are right, but if people are closed minded enough to walk away at a single mis-interpreted "anti-semitic" comment do you really think they will pay attention to anything else said here?
Censorship, including self-censorship (at least when caused by fear, not politesse) would be the worst thing to happen to this site. Stop worrying, this site isn't going anywhere.
Why it it that when any kind of criticism is made of a post that is even remotely offensive it is seen as "self censorship" What is it free speech as long as you don't call in to question idiotic behavior?
I'm not critizing self-censorship per-se, but your reasoning seemed to stem out of "don't say something or sue will have more ammunition". There are times when self-censorsip is appropriate (for example, when you want to be polite), however I feel one should never do it out of fear of retribution. It's the motive, not necessarily the action, that i question.
There seems to be a logic that says programs are bad so anyone who opposes them can say anything no matter how fucked up or asinine and get applauded.
Well. My personal opinion is that anybody can say anything and whether or not they are applauded is a matter to be left up to the audience.
Even when it is stupid. Even when it potentially is a hindrance. Im sorry Psy but that makes no sense. I also note our anti Semites best answer was, You take things too seriously.
Listen. I'm quarter Jewish. So are a lot of people. If I felt that there was truly something anti-semetic said, I might be offended, but i didn't feel that crossed the line at all. Have you ever seen an episode of "Drawn Together"?
This and the school yard favorite line of "I can saw whatever I fucking want". are you saying that daring to question this line of fucked up thinking is censoring through "fear"
No. But It's what you seemed to imply when you said
"Twice now it has come close to being shut down. Twice it has been moved. The woman who is suing is an expert at looking like a victim to courts. It is not up for even 24 hrs and some nob polisher decides it is an excellent idea to make anti semetic slurs about this woman's lawyer. Obviously the lawyer has an extensive knowledge of defamation. " Like it or not, even if it was truly antisemitic, it's still protected speech under the first amendment, and even a very good lawyer would have trouble admitting that post into a court of law (what relevance). It's a statement of truth, and by definition not defamation.
Personally, as a 1/4 Jew. I think the guy
is a disgrace of a Jew. But think about this: If I didn't have Jewish blood, such a statement would be seen as anti-semitic automatically, even though it most likely was not intended to be. It means that on the basis of race alone, certain things are OK to say and certain things are not. How is that not racism?
And while I am on the subject, What the hell is the matter with politeness? Is so damn threatening to play the ball and not the man? Any idiot can just make racist slurs or anonymously degrading remarks. Surely arguing that this takes any level of moral courage are you?
Well. I don't disagree with you on that point, however when people are angry and emotional, ad-hominem is often hard to avoid. A lot of people really like this board, and when Sue attacks it repeatedly, it ruffles a lot of feathers.
