On 2004-12-30 04:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"They need to deal with allot of hate and resentment
Yes, there is much anger and resentment for being locked away for years at a time, being sleep deprived, undernuourished and beaten. There's A LOT of resentment and anger, justifiably so.
the bottom line is all the complaing you hear is from the most messed up and stubborn kids, who refuse to do anything when they get to these schools and get phsical at times and need to be restrained.
More program dogma. The only ones who complain are the disgruntled druggies. Hmmm, where have we heard THAT before. :roll:
There is no physical contact unless a kid loses control.
First, BULLSHIT. Kids get "physical contact" (as you put it) for not looking forward, for looking out the window too long, for not journaling (or whatever, whichever program calls it) etc. etc. etc.
Second, let's say for the sake of arguement that your statement is 'correct'. Who defines what "losing control" is?
A parent knows it is going to 3-6 months before they will be able to talk to thier child and can write letters until then.
This is again the hardest decision these parents are making in thier lives, and i see tears from not only the kids, but both mothers and fathers.I have seen grown men weep like babies.
Yeah, yeah....my mom cried a river too. Doesn't mean that what happened to me was any less destructive and devastating. She was scared into thinking that THIS was the only way to help me.
But they know what they are doing is right and that they have tried everything they could and do not want thier kids dead or in jail.
More dogma. DEADINSANEORINJAIL. EVERY fucking program in the book spews out this shit. What about all the poor unfortunates that DON'T get into a program...are they ALL deadinsaneorinjail?

Funny, about .01% of the peeps I was hanging with before going in are doing fine and they were more "screwed up" (not really, but according to dogma) than I was. How come they're not DEADINSANEORINJAIL?


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Do you people think AA, or NA, or CA are brainwashing millions of people to stop drugs?
Someone said it earlier, but MY problem with AA is the learned helplessness it creates.
http://orange-papers.org/orange-powerless.htmlalong with how very close it runs to a cult. NOT SAYING IT'S A FULLBLOWN CULT....BUT THAT IT HAS MANY, MANY, MANY CULT CHARACTERISTICS.
http://orange-papers.org/orange-cult.htmlNot to mention that it's "success rate" is 5%...
the exact same success rate of doing nothing...that's right...nothing. It's called spontaneous remission and the rate for that is
5%http://orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.htmlThis one is just for fun. click on the video on the right.
http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=12