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« Reply #135 on: September 13, 2007, 11:30:45 PM »
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Ladies and gentlefucks, I think you might all be victims of a very skilled troll...

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They transferred her to South America for a month or so to learn Spanish for a second language and such.

What was the name of the place you sent her to?

What was the name of the South American facility?

If it was so great, why don't you advertise it?

Hey, screw you!!  I was nice enough to respond to you about your time in Wolfeboro.  I dont know the name of the school, but it was in Massachusetts and i remember it was near a river because her mother used to talk about it.  she went to Costa Rica to learn spanish.  I am not here for bloody adversements and I dont appreciate being called trolled.
If it is important I can get the name from my mother.

Costa Rica...  Might be Dundee (WWASP)


Oh Jesus Christ. Which TBS sent kids to Costa Rica?

Give up? ASR
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« Reply #136 on: September 13, 2007, 11:50:35 PM »
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yeah there are some good summer camps for the "not so well behaved". i hate institutions, i went to H.L.A and R.C.I, and i have nothing but bad things to say about them. but after h.l.a i went to Wolfeboro campschool in NH...and it was pretty fun. sucked in some ways - the headmaster had a drug sniffing dog, so it was impossible to get standard street drugs like weed on campus. the classes were tough, you had hours of supervised study hall every day, and alot of responsibilities around campus, but, there was plenty of other fun to go around. kids got in cigs, pills galore, among other deviant fun. and they actually treated us well....so well like 50% of the students come back year after year, and some become counselors when they go to college.

but...still issues with these camps.....the medical treatment sucks sucks sucks. i got sick there, got walking pnemonia, but they diagnosed it as a cold. by the time i got back i had fluid all up in my lungs and had to be hospitalized for 3 weeks. a few other kids got deathly sick too - 3 got whopping cough, and 2 got sallomonella. a few kids had psychotic fits there too...and they had no idea what was going on. some girl was slipped LSD at a theme park, and she got arrested for flippin out and sent to the psych ward. she was only 12, so they didnt belive the lsd story, and her urine came back negative (duh, lsd doesnt show), so they thought she was faking it, and reprimanded her harshly, while she was still tripping. another kid was going through vicodin detox at one point, and it was making him go crazy, hallucinate. they also didnt belive him so the let him suffer with no help, had to go to class everyday like everyone else.



OK.  I have a lot to say about this, but holy shit.  Lemme digest.  Honey, sit back and read what you just wrote.  Darlin'.  That's not healthy.  That's not therapeutic.  That's abuse!  

Goddamnit!!  Is it just me?   This is exaclty what I'm talkin about.  This poor kid has been so conditioned that he believes this is acceptable on any level!!!  Does this not bother anyone in Sheopleville?

 :o  :o  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:



he he i think you got me wrong. you when you wake up, you have the choice of a shower or a dip in the lake. most people opted for the shower because the lake was ice cold in the morning. but...my little tent section made a bet with the counselor that if we all jump in for a week straight, we get a trip to ben&jerrys on the headmaster every day, for a week. the kids did it, and i was the only one who got sick. i guess my body cant take it. they took me to a doctor twice to try to figure out what i have, not just a school nurse. it's just that you cant expect to find a decent doctor out in the middle of nowhere, new hampshire. he got me on antibiotics and all sorts of stuff, but if he had made an x-ray he would have seen that i had pnemonia - as the doctors back home did.

as far as the lsd girl, remember, we were at an amusement park. we got weekly trips to amusement parks, waterparks, etc. they gave us cash and let us roam free, just had to meet at the busses at the end of the day. would an abusive place do that? it in a way turned out in her favor. she got out the next day, was completely O.K and since the staff didnt think she took drugs, or at least intentionally, and she had already had a hard time, she was in no trouble. life went on.  

seriously, wolfeboro isnt a bad place. they've been around since the 1900's, and have 600+ students come through every summer.

the ONLY punishments you get at wolfeboro are as follows:
if you kinda fuck up, you get your allowance taken away. so you cant use the vending machines or buy stuff when they take to to the deli, ice cream, trips.
if you really fuck up, you have to stay in from the weekend trips and study or clean up trash. you have assigned tables and waiters, they might make you do waiter duty for an extra week.
if your grades suck, you have to go to supervised study instead of your tentcabin, where you actually have to study.
if your grades really suck they make you stay in and study all weekend.

very few kids get shitty grades - the classes are pretty easy, the teachers are really good and are often college professors who come from big universities across the country. and you have a maximum of like 8 kids in every class, plus the profs help you study all you need, they stick around for most of the day.
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« Reply #137 on: September 14, 2007, 12:00:52 AM »
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seriously, wolfeboro isnt a bad place. they've been around since the 1900's, and have 600+ students come through every summer.

the ONLY punishments you get at wolfeboro are as follows:
if you kinda fuck up, you get your allowance taken away. so you cant use the vending machines or buy stuff when they take to to the deli, ice cream, trips.
if you really fuck up, you have to stay in from the weekend trips and study or clean up trash. you have assigned tables and waiters, they might make you do waiter duty for an extra week.
if your grades suck, you have to go to supervised study instead of your tentcabin, where you actually have to study.
if your grades really suck they make you stay in and study all weekend.

very few kids get shitty grades - the classes are pretty easy, the teachers are really good and are often college professors who come from big universities across the country. and you have a maximum of like 8 kids in every class, plus the profs help you study all you need, they stick around for most of the day.


It's all relative huh? I guess compared to HLA, it did seem like a summer camp.
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« Reply #138 on: September 14, 2007, 06:47:38 AM »
i think ARS sent kids to Cost rica at the end of the "program" at one stage. it was in What it Takes to Pull me Through It sounded like the only worhtwhile thing about the whole damn school anlthough some kids I subsequently spoke to have pointed out even that was gruelling and hellish for many.
There seems to be a small but disturbing trend of well to do Britons who may send their kids to these schools. Some have gone to WWASP during Cassa by the Sea's heyday. I really hope the trends does not catch on here!

To the English Aunt. It is Ironic that this girl's parents sent their child to the US because no judge in the UK would seriously allow any parent to incarcerate their child for 18 months at a time without trial. if a school has no exeats, summer holidays, christmas holidays and limits communication between a parent and child (if only through monitoring of mail and phone calls) it ceases to be a school and becomes a jail. I would bet my house Harrow would not dream of such a ridiculous set of policies.
 
social services would also be unlikely to allow UK parents to perform the kind of "therapies" that these places perform. perhaps you should ring them and ask if it is OK to make a kid who misbehaves live in a tent in the height of winter without hot water or adequate food.

 I wonder if many Britons who go with this option are being hoodwinked because Wilderness is being sold as Summer Camp which has a certain mystique in Non US countries. i also wonder if these boarding schools are being sold a a slightly stricter version of normal english Boarding school. if they are it is a whopping lie. if parents are being sold the truth then they should take a long hard look at themselves and why they are willing to put Blind faith in strangers in a foreign country. At least the American parents who send their kids to these places can theoretically visit!
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« Reply #139 on: September 14, 2007, 08:32:44 AM »
Yeh, Sounds like ASR (Academy at Swift River) which is in Massachusetts.  They use to have a Costa Rica segment which taught Spanish thru immersion.  I am not surprised your cousin did well after graduating from there.  I had a daughter who attended and she did well also.  You will hear many bad things about Therapeutic Boarding schools on here but they are far from being all alike and they aren’t like they were 30 years ago, which is where many of the stories come from.

Sounds like Wolfeboro was a good experience, I will have to look into that school.  Thanks for your posts!
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« Reply #140 on: September 14, 2007, 09:21:00 AM »
Did your daughter get the benefits of ASR's education before or after you molested her Who?

To the English woman Google WWASP & CEDU and see whether the abuses in this industry are from 30 yrs ago

Go to a site called isaccorp and see if such abuses are from 30 yrs ago.
Ring any randon TBS and ask how many exeat weekend and summers kids spend away from the school. You will then see that even the more benign options are still just jails with pretty curtains
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« Reply #141 on: September 14, 2007, 10:36:48 AM »
This site goes on all night.   I looked into CEDU and WWASP and one was talking about the bankruptcy of their school and the other showed me a group of schools but no mention of ASR or Wolfeboro.  I don’t know all the little points of her stay but she came home very happy and wants to live in Costa Rica and do volunteer work.  There was no local magistrate who ordered her to go. Her parents found the place thru friends who had a child there.  I have to say that it is not abusive at all, the food was actually better than home she said and she did put on weight.  They went rafting or canoing and were able to go into town for movies.  They were very strict on her with her studies, which she didnt like.  She was never a big academic, so I know she considered that abusive since she wanted to drop out of school and they would not let her.  They took most of her clothes away from her for not being appropriate and her mum had to send new ones, which drove her bonko , her mum buys prudish type clothes.

To the who:  Someone doesn’t like you very much.
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« Reply #142 on: September 14, 2007, 10:53:21 AM »
The who openly admitted he molested a child. it is a statement of fact.
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« Reply #143 on: September 14, 2007, 11:03:38 AM »
A lot of parents of program survivors I've talked to still to this day claim their children had a wonderful time at the program they sent their child to. In reality their kid was physically, psychologically and sometimes sexually abused. There is a serious disconnect with parents in this industry.

Many abusive parents send their children to programs to keep them quiet. This is the case of TheWho I've been told numerous times.
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« Reply #144 on: September 14, 2007, 11:10:43 AM »
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The who openly admitted he molested a child. it is a statement of fact.
I find that difficult to believe.  I have read what thewho has wrote and he/she does not impress me as that.
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« Reply #145 on: September 14, 2007, 11:14:54 AM »
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The who openly admitted he molested a child. it is a statement of fact.


Yep!!! I too was around when he posted his story, expecting some kind of sympathy from this site, he thought that since other staff members who abused kids were accepted to post here he would be too.

As soon as he figured out child molesters are not welcome here he deleted that post and has been engaged in misdirection ever since to confuse people, especially new posters which he tries to get to his side.

Honestly it does not surprise me that program parents rally around a child molester though, it does not surprise me at all.  

 
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« Reply #146 on: September 14, 2007, 12:36:50 PM »
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This site goes on all night.   I looked into CEDU and WWASP and one was talking about the bankruptcy of their school and the other showed me a group of schools but no mention of ASR or Wolfeboro.  I don’t know all the little points of her stay but she came home very happy and wants to live in Costa Rica and do volunteer work.  There was no local magistrate who ordered her to go. Her parents found the place thru friends who had a child there.  I have to say that it is not abusive at all, the food was actually better than home she said and she did put on weight.  They went rafting or canoing and were able to go into town for movies.  They were very strict on her with her studies, which she didnt like.  She was never a big academic, so I know she considered that abusive since she wanted to drop out of school and they would not let her.  They took most of her clothes away from her for not being appropriate and her mum had to send new ones, which drove her bonko , her mum buys prudish type clothes.

To the who:  Someone doesn’t like you very much.



CEDU and WWASP are totally different entities and are not related to ASR and others.  ASR isn’t your typical place where kids are forced or court ordered to go.  It is more of an elite boarding school for struggling kids, your cousin did well by choosing it.  My daughter liked the food also (doesn’t say much for how I cooked, though!) and they are strict on their rules, especially study times.  I had to send her some new clothes also, there was a rule you couldn’t have anything with glitter and I sent her a sweater with just a little glitter around the sleeve and she wasn’t allowed to wear it.  I never knew why they couldn’t have glitter.  The Costa Rica portion was a nice end to her stay there.  She really blossomed.


Yes, I have my own personal troll, it seems,  who doesn’t like the fact that I speak about my daughters success.  If you read around the site here you will notice most of the posts are negative towards all programs and schools.  Anyone who comes on here with anything positive is hounded a bit until they leave.  This particular troll is a little frustrated that I have stuck it out so long.
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« Reply #147 on: September 14, 2007, 05:26:30 PM »
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This site goes on all night.   I looked into CEDU and WWASP and one was talking about the bankruptcy of their school and the other showed me a group of schools but no mention of ASR or Wolfeboro.  I don’t know all the little points of her stay but she came home very happy and wants to live in Costa Rica and do volunteer work.  There was no local magistrate who ordered her to go. Her parents found the place thru friends who had a child there.  I have to say that it is not abusive at all, the food was actually better than home she said and she did put on weight.  They went rafting or canoing and were able to go into town for movies.  They were very strict on her with her studies, which she didnt like.  She was never a big academic, so I know she considered that abusive since she wanted to drop out of school and they would not let her.  They took most of her clothes away from her for not being appropriate and her mum had to send new ones, which drove her bonko , her mum buys prudish type clothes.

To the who:  Someone doesn’t like you very much.


CEDU and WWASP are totally different entities and are not related to ASR and others.  ASR isn’t your typical place where kids are forced or court ordered to go.  It is more of an elite boarding school for struggling kids, your cousin did well by choosing it.  My daughter liked the food also (doesn’t say much for how I cooked, though!) and they are strict on their rules, especially study times.  I had to send her some new clothes also, there was a rule you couldn’t have anything with glitter and I sent her a sweater with just a little glitter around the sleeve and she wasn’t allowed to wear it.  I never knew why they couldn’t have glitter.  The Costa Rica portion was a nice end to her stay there.  She really blossomed.


Yes, I have my own personal troll, it seems,  who doesn’t like the fact that I speak about my daughters success.  If you read around the site here you will notice most of the posts are negative towards all programs and schools.  Anyone who comes on here with anything positive is hounded a bit until they leave.  This particular troll is a little frustrated that I have stuck it out so long.


You're good... I must admit.

Hmm.. That reminds me.  I need to finish that T-shirt.
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« Reply #148 on: September 14, 2007, 06:41:25 PM »
The only "parents" that talk to theWho are anonymous.
































Because it's theWho talking to himself.

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« Reply #149 on: September 14, 2007, 06:44:03 PM »
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Because it's theWho talking to himself.

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Well, duh. Blatant fakery is blatant.
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