concerned parent

[Anonymous]

It's no different with these parents. Think of them like retards, or cattle.

:rofl:

Wow, Paul's got a run for his money here. What have you been reading?

It's still so, so true. This poster wins the thread.

And anonymous parent: If you don't like that particular turn of phrase, guess what the programmies think of you!

[Anne Bonney]

{sorry I wanted to make sure this was still in the thread about a 14 year old girl who is in trouble for extremely minor things, right then}

So why suggest a school at all? If a retard walks up to you and asks where the nearest cliff is at, he has a trash-bag parachute he spent all night making and wants to test it out. Are you going to point to the direction of the cliff?

It's no different with these parents. Think of them like retards, or cattle. They will do whatever you say. So why not tell them to keep the kid at home? If everyone tells them this, and like the other poster is trying to suggest, this lady is over reacting and is quite possibly brainwashed by AA over reactionism in it's finest.

It might be a great 'program' or school or whatever it is. But why does a 14 year old girl deserve to be plucked from her budding life, and sent to some boarding school? IN what reality does this make sense? Only in the fornits reality that you are morally obligated to offer these parents some sort of softer option more to their liking than to serve them up the cold reality that they, are in fact, over reacting.

I've been in horrible programs and nice ones, but I would never suggest it to some strange parent on the internet who says her 14 year old stole something and might of tasted alcohol.

From the perspective of a 14 year old, going from having a free life with friends and a high school experience, to a closed, extremely small school is "private prison", or do you think this 14 year old would send you a thank-you letter from her strict school thanking you for telling her overly suggestive parent this advice?

I'm going to guess ... not.

Perspective people. These are all normal kids. Completely normal. It's their parents who are misguided and neurotic. To save them from a horrible experience such as WWASP, does not require a sentence of a softer program. This equation is dangerous and I can't express how much I disagree with it.

Yep yep.  Very well put.
 :nworthy:  :nworthy:

[Anonymous]

I really don't think lying, disrespect, stealing, a sense of entitlement  refusing to put forth effort in school are thing all normal 14 year olds do at least not the ones I know.

[Anonymous]

Speaking of entitlement issues, parents who utilize program services think they are entitled to pay people to kidnap and hurt their children.

"There are no bad kids only bad parents"

[Anonymous]

The reason your 14 year old isn't treating you with respect is because you aren't worth any respect.

Chew on that sentence for a while. Masticate it thoroughly. Consider the ramifications. For it is, in fact, true.

[Anonymous]

you ppl are with your words. how about dealig with your anger in a productive way instead of abusing others with your words

The reason your 14 year old isn't treating you with respect is because you aren't worth any respect.

Chew on that sentence for a while. Masticate it thoroughly. Consider the ramifications. For it is, in fact, true.

[Anne Bonney]

The reason your 14 year old isn't treating you with respect is because you aren't worth any respect.

Chew on that sentence for a while. Masticate it thoroughly. Consider the ramifications. For it is, in fact, true.

It is amazing how abusive you ppl are with your words. how about dealig with your anger in a productive way instead of abusing others with your words

It's amazing that a kid who has done absolutely nothing wrong, according to her own mother's postings, and she's already sent her to Catherine Freer
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... w=previous

and now she's off searching for even more fun for her daughter.

I'm sorry.   AA and the entire mentality is behind this travesty.  It's sick, it's tragic and it sucks.

[Anonymous]

The reason your 14 year old isn't treating you with respect is because you aren't worth any respect.

Chew on that sentence for a while. Masticate it thoroughly. Consider the ramifications. For it is, in fact, true.

That's unfair, how do you know that?

The reason is more likely to be that its ecause she's a 14 yr old girl, they don't do respect, they're self centred and confused about whether they are woman or child, one minute we tell them to grow the hell up, the next, they want to do something and we tell them they can't, they are only a child and have to do as we say

it's tough being a teen, even tougher being the mother of one for sure

To the mum...dont send her away, arm her with all the information you can, support her and discuss your fears with her, shes more likely to understand where you're coming from with this approach than one that sends a clear message that she's goig to get sent away again, plus did you know teens have an uncanny abiolity to block you out when you shout?

She'll respect you more for treating her for what she is, a confused woman child

[Anonymous]

agreed. I know 14 is a confusting age. However a lot of the behaviors have been going on long before teens years. They are just more intensified now. She isn't going anywhere accept maybe to a private school at the suggestion of therapist. There is less negative peer influences there.

quote="Guest"]

The reason your 14 year old isn't treating you with respect is because you aren't worth any respect.

Chew on that sentence for a while. Masticate it thoroughly. Consider the ramifications. For it is, in fact, true.

That's unfair, how do you know that?

The reason is more likely to be that its ecause she's a 14 yr old girl, they don't do respect, they're self centred and confused about whether they are woman or child, one minute we tell them to grow the hell up, the next, they want to do something and we tell them they can't, they are only a child and have to do as we say

it's tough being a teen, even tougher being the mother of one for sure

To the mum...dont send her away, arm her with all the information you can, support her and discuss your fears with her, shes more likely to understand where you're coming from with this approach than one that sends a clear message that she's goig to get sent away again, plus did you know teens have an uncanny abiolity to block you out when you shout?

She'll respect you more for treating her for what she is, a confused woman child[/quote]

[Anonymous]

agreed. I know 14 is a confusting age. However a lot of the behaviors have been going on long before teens years. They are just more intensified now. She isn't going anywhere accept maybe to a private school at the suggestion of therapist. There is less negative peer influences there.

quote="Guest"]

The reason your 14 year old isn't treating you with respect is because you aren't worth any respect.

Chew on that sentence for a while. Masticate it thoroughly. Consider the ramifications. For it is, in fact, true.

That's unfair, how do you know that?

The reason is more likely to be that its ecause she's a 14 yr old girl, they don't do respect, they're self centred and confused about whether they are woman or child, one minute we tell them to grow the hell up, the next, they want to do something and we tell them they can't, they are only a child and have to do as we say

it's tough being a teen, even tougher being the mother of one for sure

To the mum...dont send her away, arm her with all the information you can, support her and discuss your fears with her, shes more likely to understand where you're coming from with this approach than one that sends a clear message that she's goig to get sent away again, plus did you know teens have an uncanny abiolity to block you out when you shout?

She'll respect you more for treating her for what she is, a confused woman child[/quote]

[Anne Bonney]

Actually wilderness camp recommended it. She wanted to start HS at home so we said okay. No she hasn't been in trouble with the law. Past stuff lying, stealing, disrespect. She has tried achohol. She has a 100% chance of becoming on if she continues on that path because both her father and I are recovering. There is  a strong genetic component. She is also very implusive . I don''t want to I am looking at all options including sending her to small private school which i think might be better then a big public one and she would live at home which we are all for if that is what will benefit her most. The more I read on these boards , the more scared I get about boarding school.

People, people.  This is a parent freaking out.  What has this kid done that is so awful?   She's growing up!  Jesus, you guys have already started the programming process.  Get your heads OUT of stepcraft and back into reality.  Reclaim your critical thinking skills.  Trust that you've instilled enough sense in her that, although she may do stupid and impulsive things that will no doubt terrify you (I've been there.  With two girls.) fShe'll make it.  She may not do it the way and in the time frame you'd like, but this is just ridiculous.  This is about control.  Quit trying to force this stuff on her.  That's just crazy.  You're going to do far more damage trying to fix something that's not broken.

This is the kind of shit that I can't deal with.   I just get so frustrated.

[Anonymous]

There is less negative peer influences there.

How do you know that?

[Anonymous]

What has this kid done that is so awful?

Lost the genetic lottery.

[Anonymous]

Honestly parent......

Anne Bonney's right, she's not doing anything so drastic, it's scary and I know how you feel about it getting out of control, but really, they do this stuff, its normal to not be normal if you like, its just a rebellion against what society expects of her, I've been through this with 3 boys and they are all still alive, just about admittedly because I swear i've wanted to kill them enough times, but they are alive, they have never killed or mugged anyone, they still need a kick up the butt now and then, but even after everything I have been through and am still goign through, I am still glad I never sent them away, being a parent is worrying and scary and of course your child is going to make you grey before your time, just grit your teeth and bear with her, she'll soon bore of it all as she matures, and especialy when she thinks it isn't getting at you anymore.

[White Cracker Man]

Another control freak asshole parent,they drive me up a wall and back down again.

Asshole parent, stop being a control freak and have confidence in your daughter that she won't grow up to be a control freak, asshole parent like you.