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Offline Oz girl

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« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2007, 09:04:27 PM »
Why send this kid to any boarding school? her problems just dont sound too bad. I would argue sending her to boarding school because of " problems" and not because boarding school is a family tradition or because she specifically wants to go for some reason sends the message that you are unable to cope with her adolescence.

She will probably just grow out of this.
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« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2007, 09:06:00 PM »
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thanks where do you get this grea tstuff from...

From reading things that have been written by people who still retain their critical thinking skills.  If you're immersed in Stepcraft, you've buried that ability.


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about smoking or drinking I choose not to I have better things to do with my life


Other things maybe, but don't be so judgmental.  You don't know if they're better or not.
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« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2007, 09:06:01 PM »
How do you know these schools are safe, effective and/or even necessary?

If your suggestion led to a child's injury, death or suicide, would you take responsibility for the placement?

I don't understand how people can be so casual about offering private prisons like this lady is asking for a nice restaurant to take her family.

Surreal.
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« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2007, 09:07:07 PM »
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Why send this kid to any boarding school? her problems just dont sound too bad. I would argue sending her to boarding school because of " problems" and not because boarding school is a family tradition or because she specifically wants to go for some reason sends the message that you are unable to cope with her adolescence.

She will probably just grow out of this.



^^^^

This.
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« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2007, 09:09:32 PM »
I am not sending her anywhere at the moment or in the next month even if ever. Just looking and reading


uote="Oz girl"]Why send this kid to any boarding school? her problems just dont sound too bad. I would argue sending her to boarding school because of " problems" and not because boarding school is a family tradition or because she specifically wants to go for some reason sends the message that you are unable to cope with her adolescence.

She will probably just grow out of this.[/quote]
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« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2007, 09:09:52 PM »
I am not sending her anywhere at the moment or in the next month even if ever. Just looking and reading


uote="Oz girl"]Why send this kid to any boarding school? her problems just dont sound too bad. I would argue sending her to boarding school because of " problems" and not because boarding school is a family tradition or because she specifically wants to go for some reason sends the message that you are unable to cope with her adolescence.

She will probably just grow out of this.[/quote]
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« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2007, 09:12:12 PM »
[about smoking or drinking I choose not to I have better things to do with my life

well for me better. don'tknow about  for others]
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« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2007, 09:17:33 PM »
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[about smoking or drinking I choose not to I have better things to do with my life

well for me better. don'tknow about  for others]


I'm not saying it is or isn't.  I can't say that for anyone, obviously.  I just know that I thought and bought into that just like you are and once I let go of the fear, read up with a clear view and woke up, I realized I had been played.

If you're happy with what it's done for you, great.  jReally.  I understand the kind of comfort it brings you, but that's all it is.   You're not powerless.  You don't need to 'admit your wrongs" to anyone but yourself and those you feel it's important to.  You don't need to "thoroughly follow" anyone's path but your own.

I was looking for more than what I found in AA.  I couldn't even begin to discover it until I let go of all that crap.
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« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2007, 09:19:12 PM »
well for me better. don'tknow about  for others][/quote]
I was looking for more than what I found in AA.  I couldn't even begin to discover it until I let go of all that crap.[/quote]

Glad you found what you were looking for
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« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2007, 09:20:25 PM »
Well hopefully you will remember this as she grows up and starts acting asa teenager more and more. If you are already over reacting when she is 14 what happens when is 16 going to parties and getting drunk like all teenagers do. That's what worries me, is not right now, just the fact the way this AA parent over reacts is very familiar. And like this kid I was sent to my first "soft" program at a young age, progressively getting worse and worse. I hope you remember what you read here. But seriously, you hold yourself to a standard and judge your kid with this twisted moralistic AA cult like view on the world, where "common sense" therapy (brutality) makes sense. It's just the way that culture is, you'd be surprised how many kids who ultimately ended up in programs, spent their entire lives in strict AA families in one fashion or another. It's a disturbing pattern, can't say we didn't warn ya though.
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« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2007, 09:23:23 PM »
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Well hopefully you will remember this as she grows up and starts acting asa teenager more and more. If you are already over reacting when she is 14 what happens when is 16 going to parties and getting drunk like all teenagers do. That's what worries me, is not right now, just the fact the way this AA parent over reacts is very familiar. And like this kid I was sent to my first "soft" program at a young age, progressively getting worse and worse. I hope you remember what you read here. But seriously, you hold yourself to a standard and judge your kid with this twisted moralistic AA cult like view on the world, where "common sense" therapy (brutality) makes sense. It's just the way that culture is, you'd be surprised how many kids who ultimately ended up in programs, spent their entire lives in strict AA families in one fashion or another. It's a disturbing pattern, can't say we didn't warn ya though.


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« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2007, 09:30:24 PM »
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How do you know these schools are safe, effective and/or even necessary?

If your suggestion led to a child's injury, death or suicide, would you take responsibility for the placement?

I don't understand how people can be so casual about offering private prisons like this lady is asking for a nice restaurant to take her family.

Surreal.


I agree in principle, but please take the time to read my original post, filled with personal disclaimers as well as personal recommendations to stay at home, as well as providing links to other people's posts on this forum and elsewhere who have described personal experience with this particular school.  

I think Rock Point is actually a pretty normal boarding school, whose primary selling point is small size and hence more individualized attention.  Not exactly a "private prison," which you would have readily acknowledged had you bothered to read the post or read the links, as that particular issue was brought up by Son of Serbia in one of the links provided.  I brought this school up in case a smaller class size was what was needed (as Covergaard suggested), or in case some breathing space was in order.  

Son of Serbia went to a CEDU school prior to attending Rock Point and hence has ample perspective with which to compare the two.  This was when he made his previously noted post, and may or may not be his opinion as of now.  That point was also made by me in my original post regarding this, I believe, and if I neglected to mention that, shame on me for that point alone.
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« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2007, 09:40:26 PM »
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Quote from: ""Guest""
How do you know these schools are safe, effective and/or even necessary?

If your suggestion led to a child's injury, death or suicide, would you take responsibility for the placement?

I don't understand how people can be so casual about offering private prisons like this lady is asking for a nice restaurant to take her family.

Surreal.

I agree in principle, but please take the time to read my original post, filled with personal disclaimers as well as personal recommendations to stay at home, as well as providing links to other people's posts on this forum and elsewhere who have described personal experience with this particular school.  

I think Rock Point is actually a pretty normal boarding school, whose primary selling point is small size and hence more individualized attention.  Not exactly a "private prison," which you would have readily acknowledged had you bothered to read the post or read the links, as that particular issue was brought up by Son of Serbia in one of the links provided.  I brought this school up in case a smaller class size was what was needed (as Covergaard suggested), or in case some breathing space was in order.  

Son of Serbia went to a CEDU school prior to attending Rock Point and hence has ample perspective with which to compare the two.  This was when he made his previously noted post, and may or may not be his opinion as of now.  That point was also made by me in my original post regarding this, I believe, and if I neglected to mention that, shame on me for that point alone.


{sorry I wanted to make sure this was still in the thread about a 14 year old girl who is in trouble for extremely minor things, right then}

So why suggest a school at all? If a retard walks up to you and asks where the nearest cliff is at, he has a trash-bag parachute he spent all night making and wants to test it out. Are you going to point to the direction of the cliff?

It's no different with these parents. Think of them like retards, or cattle. They will do whatever you say. So why not tell them to keep the kid at home? If everyone tells them this, and like the other poster is trying to suggest, this lady is over reacting and is quite possibly brainwashed by AA over reactionism in it's finest.

It might be a great 'program' or school or whatever it is. But why does a 14 year old girl deserve to be plucked from her budding life, and sent to some boarding school? IN what reality does this make sense? Only in the fornits reality that you are morally obligated to offer these parents some sort of softer option more to their liking than to serve them up the cold reality that they, are in fact, over reacting.

I've been in horrible programs and nice ones, but I would never suggest it to some strange parent on the internet who says her 14 year old stole something and might of tasted alcohol.

From the perspective of a 14 year old, going from having a free life with friends and a high school experience, to a closed, extremely small school is "private prison", or do you think this 14 year old would send you a thank-you letter from her strict school thanking you for telling her overly suggestive parent this advice?

I'm going to guess ... not.

Perspective people. These are all normal kids. Completely normal. It's their parents who are misguided and neurotic. To save them from a horrible experience such as WWASP, does not require a sentence of a softer program. This equation is dangerous and I can't express how much I disagree with it.
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« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2007, 10:14:38 PM »
she's prolly gonna keep her home.  $$ is an issue and she's looking for an excuse not to spend it.  the fundie home environment is prolly why the kid wanted to go bak for more wilderness.  prolly the 1st time she's not under that watchful eye.

well... gotta say to the rest of the arging, i myself had super strict upbringing, not fundie, but insanely strict, and i ended up at a TBS.  had my parents sent me to a regular normal boarding school insted, which they had been considering, i woulda been happier than a pig in shit. friends or no friends bak home, wouldnt ha mattered.  freedomm from that insane strictness wouldve been sheer bliss, not "private prison"
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« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2007, 10:43:47 PM »
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No she hasn't been in trouble with the law. Past stuff lying, stealing, disrespect. She has tried achohol.


Sounds pretty serious.
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