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« on: August 26, 2007, 09:27:29 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2007, 09:32:30 AM »
Hi ,
 It is hard to figure out how to post. My name is Judy. I am have been reading these boards for awhile. My dd went through a wilderness camp this summer and had a  wonderful experience. She went through the  21 day at Catherine Freern. I have been reading about WIlderness camps and all the horrible experiences and the deaths etc. I am a concerned parent that is very involved with my child. THanks to everyone who has posted on this forum. I have considered a therapuetic boarding school however all I have read about abuse concerns me along with the cost. From what I have read Grove in Conn is the only one with positive reviews. Yes we have her in therapy. We have talked about home schooling too. She hasn't been in a lot of trouble. She is more of an at risk girl who is 14 that my husband and I just want the best for.
Judy
 So my question is what do parents like us do ?
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2007, 10:38:47 AM »
check out Rock Point in Vt.  Don't have any exp with it, but even Son of Serbia had good things to say.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2007, 01:27:36 PM »
If she had such a wonderful experience on a wilderness camp, then take one yourself together with your child.

The key element (and in many cases the only element) in therapeutic boarding schools and wilderness programs is isolation.

Isolation from all influences in the society - good AND bad:

Isolation from good things like friends, family and school.

But of course also bad things like alcohol, drugs, sex etc.

Some of the problems of understanding a teenager today is that your experience of being a teenager is some 20-40 years old.

I grew in the 1970's without internet and where drug users where corpselooking teenagers with a needle in their arms. See: Christiane F. They do not look like that today. In every High School class in Denmark there are 2 or 3 drugusers and most of them manage to be occasionally users until they are about 25 , where most of them either quit or get killed. (It is so rare that a teenager is loosing he or her life due to druguse that it is frontpage news in all newspapers nationwide).

So if she had a good stay, it would not hurt her to go there a second time, but this time you should got with her a stay at her side all time, while they give you therapy. Perhaps then you will bond with her in a way you would ever hope to achieve.

Perhaps then you also would learn what you really put her through and she otherwise would never tell you before she turns 18 out of pure fear of being shipped off again.

You should try Aspen Family Camp, but I have to warn you. When they used it in Brat Camp Uk the reality of wilderness therapy was so harsh on the parents, that a family did quit. That is a privilege a parent has. Such rights do children not have.

So try to learn to know your child. Let the next step be emotional growth for your boths (or in your case. An update to teenage life after the millennium).
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2007, 02:48:09 PM »
Thank you everyone. Actually my goal is and always has been to get to know her . Yes I know the problem is just not her. It is our family  btw I am in therapy too and have been for awhile now
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 03:32:41 PM »
There's also Mount Bachelor Academy!

If you're looking for real therapy you've come to the wrong place. There's nothing but abuse to be had here. Paying top dollar to send her off to some quacks isn't going to help anyone but the quacks. She hasn't actually done anything and you're talking about shipping her somewhere?

DON'T. Even the most cursory browsing of Fornits ought to teach you why. Take your money and your daughter and RUN LIKE HELL from anyone who says you ought to send her anywhere.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2007, 03:50:30 PM »
I have looked the website over and one thing worries me.

They medicate and they seem to do it wrong. Look at the myspace group of former students. A girls seemed to have her kidneys destroyed during the stay.

Grove School Group

See topic: former grovie...former problems

You also need to ask them how they handle runaways. You will never know how your child does it with homesickness. It could be a crime and time in juvenile hall if they call the police if she runs away. It is not like in my country where the police just locate them and tell the parents to phone them and arrange home transport, if the child want to.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2007, 04:27:05 PM »
ICk the the reply on grove school . I saw it. Thanks for finding this for me.  That is scary

I haven't made any decision.. Just looking ....

I thought P.U.R.E was maybe a great resource until I can here and found out all the crap about it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2007, 04:27:58 PM »
Quote from: ""concerned  questions""
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2007, 04:33:00 PM »
*Scratches head*

Something seems odd about all of this... Why do you want to send her away?
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2007, 04:49:41 PM »
Actually wilderness camp recommended it. She wanted to start HS at home so we said okay. No she hasn't been in trouble with the law. Past stuff lying, stealing, disrespect. She has tried achohol. She has a 100% chance of becoming on if she continues on that path because both her father and I are recovering. There is  a strong genetic component. She is also very implusive . I don''t want to I am looking at all options including sending her to small private school which i think might be better then a big public one and she would live at home which we are all for if that is what will benefit her most. The more I read on these boards , the more scared I get about boarding school.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2007, 04:56:34 PM »
Where is Grove School located?

Also your wilderness program has blood on it's hands according to ISAC

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Three children died at Catherine Freer Wilderness Expeditions in just one year.

Another was seriously injured in 2005.

Information about two of the deaths can be found below.

For reasons unknown, we believe details of the other death were not released.

We encourage parents considering this program to exercise extreme caution.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2007, 04:57:29 PM »
Get her one of these.



If you can't afford it, you can use chalk, which is available at many stores including your town general store.

I know it sounds silly, but it worked with me. I was disrespecting teachers, I tried alcohol almost four times, had terrible restless leg syndrome, and ODD.

My parents tried everything, nothing worked. It wasn't until they found out about HopScotch therapy that I started to wean off the downward spiral that could of led to ditching and pot smoking or worse.

Now I am a college level HopScotch player, I got a full scholarship. I am doing very well. I own my own sports car, a small house, I have a beautiful spouse and even two fish! Things are bountiful and well at my house, rest assured of that.

I know it sounds simple, but that's it. All I needed was something to focus on in life. You would be surprised at the different levels of HopScotch these days, it can be very complicated and competitive, they are even thinking of making it an official olympic sport.

The picture I posted is just a beginner setup, but she can use chalk and get a book and draw more advanced courses, and at the same time improve her math and agility skills.

You don't need a program, just get her hopping.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2007, 05:02:26 PM »
Yes I knew about the deaths at freer. Thanks for the suggestion on hopscoth therapy. I am looking it up now
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2007, 05:08:28 PM »
is in conn in the US
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