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Damn i remember a lot of those names!

Darren

Shut up, guy. Noone gives a fuck about god or satan these days.

Who?? :rofl:

Is an agnostic life a lonely life?
Seems like it would be.

Now dont go tongue lashing me. I dont care what you believe and I wouldnt call myself a Christian because Christians have moral obligations that I dont subscribe to.
But it just seems quite unproductive for anyone to verbally challenge a belief that doesnt challenge you!

Or does it?


Its funny, but I will bet whatever that those most vocally opposed to any religion here have simply taken a seat on a bandwagon.
I have yet to meet anyone who claims there is no god, also claim theyve read the bible cover to cover and comprehand its messages.

The bible was written by men. In a language that is all but impossible to translate to English.  Of course any reasonable person would allow a margin of error. Christians do!

We were all designed to be skeptics, either by nature, or by creation.
But those who criticize creation do not often qualify as skeptics because they have not studied what they criticize near enough to comment on it!

I assume this applies to most, if not all of the fools here who take the time to comment in contrast to the ideas in the first post.
If youre not one of them, your just so afraid you wouldnt qualify for a place in the afterlife that you deny it might exist.

ag?nos?tic? /æg?n?st?k/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ag-nos-tik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

?noun 1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

I am an agnostic...we arent lonely..just unsure of the outcome. I admit there is a possibility of a higher power but i do not believe enough to follow the MAN written book and the wonderful stories it holds...but to take an idea that i'm gonna burn in hell for living my life to MY standards and not someone elses...is just funny.

Atheism is another story...i prefer to leave the higher power as a mystery.

Satan is my pal.

Pretty good hockey player too! :rofl:
http://www.nhl.com/players/8459534.html

The Bible says Satan rules this world.  The Bible says the  world we live in is a wicked, evil world.  How is it wicked?   It is wicked in its actions and its conduct;  it is wicked in  its attitudes, values and outlooks.  And conduct and actions  follow values, attitudes and outlooks.

America.  Christian America.  That great country.  We call it  Christian.  Homosexuality standing in high profile, with open  support from the government.  A country up to its ears in sin,  lust and depravity.  America a Christian nation?  That is a  real illusion.

God's ways of morality, decency, goodness, and righteousness -- where are they?  America and the entire Christian western  world all just confirm that Biblical teaching:  Satan rules  this world.  And here in the West, at least, he really does  seem to own everything --- lock, stock and barrel.

Modern 20th Century America.  How are its attitudes, values  and outlooks manifested?  They are manifested in its music  (rock music), its art (decadent modern art), its drama  (Hollywood movies, TV), its literature (modern Realism).  

The problem of this world lies in its heart, in its spirit.   Its spirit is the spirit of its ruler, Satan.  It is the spirit  of rebellion against God, the spirit of disobedience.

The true Christian will always be one of a small minority, an  outsider, a man on a lonely path, never a real part of the  system.  Quoting from the words of Christ: "If you were of the  world, the world would love his own:  but you are not of this  world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the  world hates you."  And we can find many quotations in the  letters of the apostles to the same effect.  For example, "And  be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the  renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good,  and acceptable, and perfect will of God."  and "Ye adulterers  and adulteresses know ye not that the friendship of the world  is enmity with God?  Whosoever therefore will be a friend of  the world is the enemy of God.

the bible is a good story book...keep your book thumping to yourself.

Welcome to the noobs.  Please ignore the paranoid ramblings and twenty questions game.

Dean I think it was marketed as a drug rehab but it wasn't at all.  Most of the kids

Straight is Straight - Life is Straight Lite- Step is LIFE Lite -
Prison is Step Lite

the fundamental "therapy" among these programs are identical - same processes - same steps  - same rules- confrontations - varying degrees of the amount of physical abuse accepted to enforce those rules - or in some cases whether you had to break a rule at all in order to get physically abused. At Straight, from the testimonies i have read --anything went. At LIFE I don't know you guys know better than me i only visited one time, while visiting I remember people getting restrained,gettting slapped in the head for not looking straight ahead or on the girls side I can not attest to other instances AT Step,there was not alot of restraining or physical abuse going on at STEP like I heard/witnessed at LIFE - I can only remember a couple of times where a kid "acted out" enough  a staff member at STEP felt it necessary - I remember one of those times vividly cause it was right around Christmas and this girl went after someone with one of those foot long real thick candy canes -

the old "Lifers" at Step used to talk about the "misbehaviors" - there seemed to be three classification of 1st phasers at LIFE -
1.ones that just sat there,quiet, kept to themselves, didn't participate -
2 ones that were not afraid to cause a little trouble by various means
3. ones that participated who were trying to get to 2nd phase

At step, all the intakes for the most part fell into category 1 or 3 and there was no need to the staff to restrain people for just sitting there, actually during my time, i remember the people who got restrained were never original intakes they were people who had been started over, getting started over sucked, thinking you were on your way and then bam- 1st phase again -

I know for me I just sat there- i felt like tearing up the place - but I was always too chicken - I know when we went to LIFE for a weekend - I remember STEP staff being worried of allowing us 1st phasers to witness the misbeviors at LIFE thinking we would "learn" how to disrupt group- personally, that weekend I always was kind of rooting for them - bolting to the doors, throwing stuff - made group a little more exciting less predictable- I stayed in that place called the "rez" but I can;t remember much about it. THere are two things I will never forget about my visit to LIFE.
1. The site of 150 kids waving their arms all at the same time and the noise of the pews lifting off the floor and back down- that alone would freak anyone out- 15 kids at STEP just didn;t have the same effect
2. There was a big guy - a 1st phaser - he actually had a beard - looked very strong - had to be over 18 - when he walked around no one would belt loop him - anyway - he got called out of group by ms. pete - and as he was walking out the double doors he yells out "FUCK ME with a COURT ORDER BITCH" I thought that was so funny - then I had a 5th phaser come over to me telling me not to laugh, slapping me on the head -

PEACE

That about sums it up.

"Fearlessness is better than a faint heart for anyone who sticks his nose out of doors. As for me, the length of my life and day of my death were fated long ago." - Old Norse saying

As for the Guest who believes the world has changed and is more dangerous and we should never let our kids out of our sight, I have some advice. Turn off Fox News and go outside and play. You will see the real world is still a place where kids play just like MGDP says they do. I see it everyday. I have an active 9-yr-old son. If you continue to watch Fox News, you only become more and more paranoid. The news is not real life.

Teach your kids to be aware and cautious. My type A kid is more streetwise than many of his peers and more informed about some things than over protective parents are comfortable with, but I believe he is safer for it.

You are more like little johnny's friend, gotcha...hey if that works for you... :rofl: