not true parents who put their kids in programs when all else has failed and they are sick and tired of the lying, disrespect, drugs in the house and all the drama and just want their kids to be respectful and respect boundaries
the kids i am referring to never did drugs, and did not "lie" or be "disrespectful" even as much as an "average" kid does.
You are a troll, and a good exammple of a program parent. You feel you are entitled to a kid who is congenitally unable to lie, be disrespectful, or use drugs.
Normal parents know that this what normal kids (and adults) want to do, and will do. They know that it is up to them to parent their kids through these normal human activities and possibilities, not attempt to have the parts of their kids brain that makes them capable of doing so removed.
Parents like this have absolutely unrealistic expectation for their kids. They are abusive. Abusive parents beleive that thier kids are sub-par in some way that justifies treating them in a way that would be considered unethical to treat a "normal" (good) kid.
Therefore, after torturing them through centers like Aspen ed, Cedu, and Desisto, and their kid commits suicide, they don't "care" in a healthy way.
How can you be that upset over something you never really connected to in the first place because it's mewling as an infant was so "selfish"? How can you be that upset when a kid kills themselves, or examine your role in their death, when their "lying" clearly means they are doomed, pathalogically abusive, and selfish? After all, when some child "abuses you" for years, their loss, is in some way a blessing. At least, it's not a loss as bad as the loss of a non-abusive person