Parents don't want to listen

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But they advertise that their counseling staff all have Master's or higher.

It appears you mixed that up with their employment page.  HLA is looking for a counselor with a masters degree in a related field

They are also looking for assistant counselors with a bachelors degree.  So not all counselors are required to have advanced degrees but they are all educated in the field.  Do they advertise elsewhere that all their counselors hold advanced degrees?  I did not see that.

yes, they do advertise this elsewhere.  i researched this for the lawsuit and i found no less than 30 sites on which HLA advertises itself as having "42 Masters Level Counselors" and that all peer group counselors hold a "Masters degree or higher."  of course, these are all lies, but hey, they're just tryin' to make a buck!

this has been well documented on Fornits.  you can search the threads for it.

[TheWho]

But there doesnt appear to anything current.  There web site information seems to be in line with what they are presently doing.
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[Anonymous]

Because we exposed them.  Just like Izzy's site.  Say it here, it changes there.

and they say we have no influence.
 :rofl:

[Anonymous]

But there doesnt appear to anything current.  There web site information seems to be in line with what they are presently doing.
 ::hatter::

Why are you back here?

[Anonymous]

But they advertise that their counseling staff all have Master's or higher.

It appears you mixed that up with their employment page.  HLA is looking for a counselor with a masters degree in a related field

They are also looking for assistant counselors with a bachelors degree.  So not all counselors are required to have advanced degrees but they are all educated in the field.  Do they advertise elsewhere that all their counselors hold advanced degrees?  I did not see that.

yes, they do advertise this elsewhere.  i researched this for the lawsuit and i found no less than 30 sites on which HLA advertises itself as having "42 Masters Level Counselors" and that all peer group counselors hold a "Masters degree or higher."  of course, these are all lies, but hey, they're just tryin' to make a buck!

this has been well documented on Fornits.  you can search the threads for it.

No, the lies continue:
http://tinyurl.com/2nsm7k

 
Hidden Lake Academy

(Therapeutic Boarding School)
 
  Gender: Coeducational Phone: (800) 394-0640
Ages: 13 to 18
 
 
Grades: 7 to 12 Fax: (706) 864-9109
Enrollment: 175 Email: www.hiddenlakeacademy.com
Founded: 1994    
    Admission Contact: Billy Pichon  
Address: 830 Hidden Lake Rd.
Dahlonega, GA 30533  Executive Contact: Leonard Buccellato, Ph.D.
   
       
 
Hidden Lake Academy (HLA), located on a 215-acre campus one hour north of Atlanta, helps young people make significant gains in emotional maturity and academic achievement. Integral to the HLA program is an equal emphasis on the college-preparatory academic curriculum and sudent's therapeutic work. The Hidden Lake Academy staff cooperate to help students develop all aspects of their lives: physical, mental, emotional, social, and spiritual. The 10:1 student to teacher ratio ensures individual attention and a return to academic success.

Typical students exhibit oppositional-defiant behavior, low self-esteem, depression, ADHD, deteriorating family relationships, and are making poor choices. Students typically graduate Hidden Lake Academy's therapeutic program with a greatly increased ability and motivation to make decisions that will positively impact their lives.

Hidden Lake Academy utilizes a detailed, sequential therapeutic program which allows for a high degree of program accountability. Each group consists of 14 students and is led by 2 Master's-level counselors. Students participate in three group counseling sessions per week (7 hours). In addition to group therapy, an addictions education course, planned and staffed by specialists in this field, is included in each student's experience. A wilderness component-consisting of a series of exciting and challenging experiences including day hikes, adventure trips, rock climbing and rappelling days, a ropes course, and canoeing is carefully integrated into a program. A staff chaplain provides ample opportunities for spiritual development for students of all faiths and coordinates extensive community services projects and numerous off-campus trips. HLA competes in the Atlanta Athletic Conference. Studens participate in basketball, volleyball, baseball, soccer, wrestling, tennis, softball, golf and track. Sports are balanced by strong Drama and Fine Arts Departments.
 
   
Individual Psychotherapy Available: Yes
Accreditation, Licensure, Approval: The Georgia Accrediting Commission; Southern Association of Colleges and Schools
Professional Affiliations: NATSAP-Full Member; GAIS; GAPSEC;GISA; NAIS; SSATB,

[Anonymous]

Because we exposed them.  Just like Izzy's site.  Say it here, it changes there.

and they say we have no influence.
 :rofl:

This site has enormous influence.  Bucchi reads it obsessively as he folds and unfolds a piece of paper, nursing his OCD along with his other disorders.  His entire mood can change in an instant depending on what he reads on fornits.  Everyone who works in the administrative office knows this.  Right, Bucchi?

[TheWho]

A quick scan of their employees from the HLA site shows at least 3 or 4 counselors with advanced degrees.  Where does this go against what they say?
I am not trying to defend them on this but just trying to understand how you see this as not meeting standards

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please read the threads.  they are now under the purview of ORS and are required BY LAW to use staff with the appropriate credentials.  they DO NOT.

they state that all counselors are masters level - this is a lie.  they say that there are two masters level counselors per peer group - this is a lie.  they say they employ 42 masters level counselors - this is a lie.  they also continue to have uneducated, unlicensed personnel perform therapy without the supervision of a licensed counselor and without the requisite degrees.  not to mention the academic department which fails miserably to meet state standards...

HLA is a sham and a scam.

be sure to continue to report the false advertising and unqualified personnel to ORS for investigation.

[Anonymous]

please read the threads.  they are now under the purview of ORS and are required BY LAW to use staff with the appropriate credentials.  they DO NOT.

What appropriate credentials does ORS require you waste of human space?  You people are so wrapped up in licenses and certifications.  These are simply not required, idiots.  Most states recognize qualified professionals.  This is the case in Georgia.  You do not have to be a certified teacher to teach under SACS or GAC.  This is what HLA falls under not the State Department of Education.  If you want your child to attend a public school with public school oversite HLA is not for you.  As a private school it is only required to have qualified teachers.

Now, to this other piece of drivel.  All peer group counselor, I repeat peer group counselors have a masters degree.  When the school had 160 students they employed 42 master level counselors.  They do not have that number of students and don't require that number of staff.  Basic math but I'm aware of the many learning disabilities here on fornits.  All of the peer group counselors, I repeat peer group counselors are educated but are not required to be licensed.  Amigone is not a peer group counselor, she is a substance abuse counselor.  As some of you recovery addicts...., wait no one on fornits is in recovery, they are trying to legalize it....anyway, substance abuse counselors are not required to be licensed.  In fact many have earned their degrees in addiction recovery by being addicts in recovery.  They have had no formal training at all...License that!

State Standards....what state standards are required of a private therapeutic boarding school that HLA doesn't meet.  Be careful you are not referring to standards that public or state funded programs must meet.  

they state that all counselors are masters level - this is a lie.  they say that there are two masters level counselors per peer group - this is a lie.  they say they employ 42 masters level counselors - this is a lie.  they also continue to have uneducated, unlicensed personnel perform therapy without the supervision of a licensed counselor and without the requisite degrees.  not to mention the academic department which fails miserably to meet state standards...

Fornit is a sham and a scam.

be sure to continue to report the false advertising and unqualified personnel to ORS for investigation.

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oh, johnny ringo, how you dissemble...

what you wrote is a pack of lies, ringo.  never in its existence did HLA EVER have 42 masters level counselors, EVER.  and they DO need to be licensed or directly supervised by one who is, and the licensed one can only oversee a maximum of THREE unlicensed ones.  of course, even the unlicensed ones need to have a masters degree in a mental health or social work field.

substance abuse counselors are not required to be licensed

this is also a blatant lie.  all substance abuse counselors must hold the appropriate certification and the FACILITY has to be a LICENSED drug treatment cernter.

johnny, johnny, johnny...come to grips with reality.  polish up your resume (instead of your boss' knob) and start looking for gainful employment.  HLA is finished, only you don't realize it yet - you're a little slow on the uptake...

[Anonymous]

Now, to this other piece of drivel.  All peer group counselor, I repeat peer group counselors have a masters degree.  When the school had 160 students they employed 42 master level counselors.  They do not have that number of students and don't require that number of staff.  Basic math but I'm aware of the many learning disabilities here on fornits.  All of the peer group counselors, I repeat peer group counselors are educated but are not required to be licensed.  Amigone is not a peer group counselor, she is a substance abuse counselor.  As some of you recovery addicts...., wait no one on fornits is in recovery, they are trying to legalize it....anyway, substance abuse counselors are not required to be licensed.  In fact many have earned their degrees in addiction recovery by being addicts in recovery.  They have had no formal training at all...License that!

Wow, I never thought an HLA employee would be dumb enough to actually admit that they hire unlicensed substance abuse counselors.

[Anonymous]

Now I truly understand the old saying about a little bit of knowledge being dangerous.  You people know just enough to raise you above sludge.  

HLA is not, has not been, will not be a drug treatment facility.  Running and AA meeting and teaching the dangers of drugs does not constitute a drug treatment facility or certifcation as a substance abuse counselor.  Next, post the state requirement that indicates all substance abuse counselors must be certified.  All not just State employed.

[Troll Control]

Now, to this other piece of drivel.  All peer group counselor, I repeat peer group counselors have a masters degree.  When the school had 160 students they employed 42 master level counselors.  They do not have that number of students and don't require that number of staff.  Basic math but I'm aware of the many learning disabilities here on fornits.  All of the peer group counselors, I repeat peer group counselors are educated but are not required to be licensed.  Amigone is not a peer group counselor, she is a substance abuse counselor.  As some of you recovery addicts...., wait no one on fornits is in recovery, they are trying to legalize it....anyway, substance abuse counselors are not required to be licensed.  In fact many have earned their degrees in addiction recovery by being addicts in recovery.  They have had no formal training at all...License that!

Wow, I never thought an HLA employee would be dumb enough to actually admit that they hire unlicensed substance abuse counselors.

yeah, but you didn't factor in exactly HOW DUMB johnny ringo actually is.  he's about as bright as a ten watt bulb.

not only that, he's a high and mighty holy-roller rapture righty, but is a complete and utter blasphemer.  go figure.

[Lacey]

Now I truly understand the old saying about a little bit of knowledge being dangerous.  You people know just enough to raise you above sludge.  

HLA is not, has not been, will not be a drug treatment facility.  Running and AA meeting and teaching the dangers of drugs does not constitute a drug treatment facility or certifcation as a substance abuse counselor.  Next, post the state requirement that indicates all substance abuse counselors must be certified.  All not just State employed.

Bullshit. I was in their addictions program for 2 years! After a wonderful one size fits all WRITTEN TEST they administer to determine if someone is an addict. Never talking to the kids until AFTER they are in the program about their history with drugs/alcohol. They seem to feel that a multiple choice examination is just well and good to determine a treatment program for someone.

Yes, we went to off campus AA meetings, and the people who scored a sub-addict score on the test were required to still take once a week classes on the dangers of drugs, but the "addicts" were in a program there, lead by Jen Rager and Clay Erickson.

This is that stupid spin you try and do on the school to make it something different than what it is. A SCAM.

[TheWho]

Well, I still cant see where HLA is not living up to the requirements or not doing what they advertise they do.

I have checked their web site and googled for their ads and they seem to be telling the truth about what they say they do and the counselors they hire.

Does anyone have a link or any proof at all?
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