Sorry your feelings are hurt by being kicked off of ST.
Im not.
If anyone wants to hear what you have to say, they will come to this forum and weed through all the crap.
What crap? All these facts everyone seems to have trouble manouvering around when they spew forth their nonsense?
You have nothing new to add to the ST forum- your message remains the same. You think all parents who send kids to programs are evil, failed as parents and are ruining their kids.
No, I dont. That presumption upon what I
feel about them is one of my problems with that forum. Its full of a bunch of defensive crybabies who want to be told they're good parents and did the right thing over and over again, and want attention.
I dont care to facilitate that. I DO care about the truth, whats going on, and that those kids arent getting any help, 90% of them dont need any, and theyre all being abused right now.
If you have something new to say, have at it.
Oh, It still has to be said even if its not new. I have fact and evidence too, but thats a no-no there. The holocaust still has to be taught, so that humanity wont make that mistake again. Apparently they've been behind in their studies.
There are plenty of parents on this site (according to you) who have admitted that program placement was a mistake.
Really? Ive yet to see one...
Of course, most of them are angry at an ex-spouse who made the placement.
Because god knows THEY cant make a mistake, oh no, it has to be someone else, the OTHER parent, and the parent posting themself was doing the right thing ALL ALONG, and theyre the victim, either way, right? :roll:
There have been some abusive and dangerous programs- in the past, usually the WAY past.
OOOkkk... These programs in operation right now with the SAME PEOPLE doing things the SAME WAY arent abusive? How so?
This is more reflective of your truthiness than about any facts. Nothings changed between then and now, just marketing, P.R., a few terms, and maybe a few entry level employees, but the model is the same.
Probably the main reason you aren't welcome on ST is because you have no empathy and won't listen to anyone else's point of view.
I have a lot of empathy, but guess what?
ITS FOR THOSE CHILDREN IN RESTRAINT OR LGAT SEMINARS BEING ABUSED RIGHT NOW, NOT FOR SOME GROWN UP CRYBABY WHO WANTS ATTENTION FOR HOW HARD IT WAS TO PUT THEIR OWN KID INTO SUCH A PLACE.
Oh, and points of view dont matter if they're WRONG, moron. You can have the point of view that one plus one makes three, but the day I respect it is the day I drink the same punch you do.
There ARE different opinions presented on that site, but there is also a maturity to listen and respond with thought instead of foul language and emotion.
Uh, really? All theyve responded with EVER is emotion, not thought. Show me someone responding with thought and reason, and Ill read it, and Ill take back that statement.
Oh, and Ive yet to see any maturity - just a desire to reinforce their desire to believe they're good parents, did the right thing, the program works, trust the program, the kids being helped, and theyre the victim in it... but none of them really belive it, so they keep going back to try to make themselves believe it and silence their own doubts.
Anon, its this simple. I dont care to consider a point of view that is inherantly flawed or wrong. Subjective pluralism only works where there is no objective perspective to take - there IS one, they just dont want to take it. Pluralism would be what hair color looks the best, objectivity is how long it actually is. You cant take 15 points of view and have them 'all right' like in your bullshit seminars about how long it is, its as long as it is (though slowly growing), period.
I dont care to empathize with an immature adult who just wants to be coddled, when the truth is coddling them and reassuring them shoving their kid into a van with some escorts and taking them away for a year or more to some behavior modification hellhole is like making Dr. Kellogg feel good and reassuring him that its 'the right thing to do' to make everyone get massive yogurt enemas. It doesnt make squirting yogurt up your ass any more effective a treatment, but for the BELIEVERS it makes them feel better.
Unfortunately, theyre still being abused, not helped, and are going to have some real problems down the line, and the only people you seem to care about are a few check-writing whiners, most of them with adopted kids.
So, you can cry me a river, or go squirt some yoplait up your ass for all I care. Im thinking about the kids and the fact that none of this shit has ever been proven to work, yet theres piles of evidence showing it doesnt, its abusive, makes things worse, or some combination of all three.
Again, read up on the Truthiness. You've got a LOT of it coming out of your mouth!
