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« Reply #135 on: September 24, 2005, 08:30:00 AM »
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"HIDDEN LAKE CONTRACTS WITH PSYCHIATRIST

(March 2005) Hidden Lake Academy, Dahlonega, GA, 800-394-0640, http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com, announced that because of a growth in the number of students and their psychiatric needs, the program has expanded its psychiatric services by contracting with an additional psychiatrist, Consuelo M. Reddick, MD. She is on campus weekly to assist students with medication reviews, medical support and emergency on-call situations.

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So much for the no-medication model.  These peole will do whatever it takes to sell a parent.  Meds, no meds, no court-ordered, court-ordered, therapy, no therapy, wilderness, no wilderness.  It's gotta make you wonder how this place can cover both sides of every issue and be effective at all.

If they were politicians, we'd call them "scam artists."
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« Reply #136 on: September 24, 2005, 05:33:00 PM »
"Upon enrollment, disclosure of any psychotropic medications a student is on must be declared in a written form. If a student is on psychotropic medications, they need to see a psychiatrist for medication management or to receive a weaning schedule. HLA has a ?no medication? policy and prefers to wean the students off psychotropic medications whenever possible. The structure that we provide enables most students to succeed without being medicated while at HLA. Our consulting Psychiatrist meets with students on a weekly basis."
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« Reply #137 on: September 24, 2005, 11:27:00 PM »
Wow, 18 months sure seems like a long time to wean a kid off of their med's!  :roll: But, I suppose having that as a policy makes them feel less like liars. That should be a table for manipulation...
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« Reply #138 on: September 25, 2005, 09:41:00 AM »
Where in this statement does it say it takes 18 months to wean kids off of medications? I don't see that anywhere in that paragraph. Any doctor knows that when kids are on Ritalin or Paxil you can't enroll them in a school that prefers non-medicated students and suddenly take them off the drugs they have been on for months, possibly years. It is the safe thing to wean them off slowly over a period of weeks or several months. I believe you are reading what you want into the statement above and not what it actually says.
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« Reply #139 on: September 25, 2005, 12:19:00 PM »
Actually, I was enrolled in HLA and almost immediately taken off of my ADD meds.
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« Reply #140 on: September 25, 2005, 06:10:00 PM »
When I was there most kids stayed on.
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« Reply #141 on: September 26, 2005, 05:45:00 PM »
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"When I was there most kids stayed on."

When I was there, you were stupid.  Hahah.  Sorry, man.  In one of those kinda moods.  We should talk soon.  
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« Reply #142 on: September 27, 2005, 07:26:00 PM »
Sorry just realized where I knew Heidi from.
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« Reply #143 on: October 03, 2005, 03:50:00 PM »
You are so right I went there and got the inside scoop on THE SERIOUSNess of shit they do and am planning a lawsuit please help I can help you
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« Reply #144 on: November 06, 2005, 09:15:00 AM »
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« Reply #145 on: November 18, 2005, 10:19:00 AM »
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« Reply #146 on: November 18, 2005, 10:39:00 AM »
"I graduated HLA in 2004. Just like everyone else i hated the place and i think that there were a lot of things that went on there that shouldn't have and probably still do. I asked my parents why they sent me there and they said they wanted to put me in a drug free environment where i could get help. well, needless to say, i didn't get help (big surprise), but i also was not in a drug free environment. For the duration of my stay at HLA several other students and myself traded articles of clothing to staff members in exchange for marijauna, cigarettes, and dip. some staff member's gave dip and cigarettes to us free of charge, including the director of athletics at the time. HLA doesn't fix kids, it just teaches them how to lie like the best."
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« Reply #147 on: November 18, 2005, 08:14:00 PM »
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""I graduated HLA in 2004. Just like everyone else i hated the place and i think that there were a lot of things that went on there that shouldn't have and probably still do. I asked my parents why they sent me there and they said they wanted to put me in a drug free environment where i could get help. well, needless to say, i didn't get help (big surprise), but i also was not in a drug free environment. For the duration of my stay at HLA several other students and myself traded articles of clothing to staff members in exchange for marijauna, cigarettes, and dip. some staff member's gave dip and cigarettes to us free of charge, including the director of athletics at the time. HLA doesn't fix kids, it just teaches them how to lie like the best." "


Mrs. Gray here you have a former inmate offering his first hand account of things.

Will you claim he is:

A) Lying about it because he is angry.

B) Spreading rumors he does not know to be fact.

C) Attacking you because you know what knew what went on there better than any student who lived there did. After all you were in the same zip code as the school for seven years and you do take care of TWO disabled family members.

Which will it be Mrs. Gray, because as we are all well aware you could never accept the possibility that he might simply be telling the truth.
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« Reply #148 on: December 14, 2005, 01:22:00 PM »
Posted by a physician in another thread...

"My experience with Hidden Lake Academy was also distressing.

In my opinion, and the opinions of the six other physicians in my practice who followed my HLA misadventure with me, HLA is a predator whose prey is the horrified parents of disturbed teens. It is an institution of opportunity, bringing home its bottom line at the expense of the desperate, frazzled families it exploits.

By the time most parents are introduced to HLA, they've already been through a costly and demoralizing gauntlet of police stations, court appearances, counselor visits, psychiatric evaluations...even hospital visits.

To say they are desperate is an understatement. They are trying to keep their families from self-destructing. In most cases, the only option is turning the child out onto the streets: most insurance policies won't cover mental health care, and even if a family is lucky enough to have good coverage, it is limited to short, individual events. Deeply needed inpatient care is rarely an option for most of these families.

So even considering a modality such as a therapeutic boarding school is a true extravagance. Actually sending the student may mean mortgaging a home, selling it, or even bancruptcy.

Enter Hidden Lake and its ilk.

I was asked by the parents of a young teen to evaluate HLA by its Web site. What stood out to me even more than the philosophy that medical therapy was discouraged were the many typographical errors and careless mistakes on nearly every page of the site. While my own writing is not perfect, I am not registered as a boarding school, responsible for the education of children, presumably overflowing with teachers more than capable of proofreading the very materials provided to the public for the purpose of attracting business.

When I brought my concerns to the attention to the school, they were received with, well, less than warm gratitude. My comments to HLA were meant to be constructive. I was gracious and self-effacing in my original letter because the last thing I wanted was to offend the school. Clearly such niceties were a waste of effort.

Given that the parents are expected to pay upwards of seven thousand dollars per month for the privilege of sending their child to a therapeutic boarding school, I actually expected a minimum of civility. None was evident.

My credentials were questioned?this from an institution whose methods are questionable, at best, from a medical (and psychiatric, I might add) point of view.

Fast forward a few months...and imagine how surprised I was to come across the story of the parent in the previous posts. Am I shocked HLA will not send the child's transcripts? Nope. They demonstrated their pettiness, immaturity, and curious vindictiveness to me, a peer and potential referral base a long time ago. Was I surprised that personal belongings, including necessary daily medications, were sent COD?by ground? Actually, yes.

Not only did that shock me, it caused me to pick up the phone and discuss this gross mismanagement of a patient's medications with a malpractice attorney, who recommends HLA check to be sure their insurance premiums are paid.

To the parent: my suggestion is that you alert your attorney to your experience. Gather all proof of your allegations, including the boxes the personal effects were sent in, the COD receipt(s), the condition of any damaged items, a list of missing items, if any, and proof of payments made to HLA. Regardless of any contract signed (as a previous Anonymous poster cryptically stated), a minimum level of responsibility to the patient's health is required by ANY institution. That minimum includes making reasonable arrangements for the patient to have access to their medications. COD shipping by ground is not, by any standard, "reasonable."

So guess what, parent? You may be getting a sizeable percentage of the "investment" HLA coerced you to pay them right back into your pocket.

I'll be cheering for you from this sideline."

UNBIASED OUTSIDE OPINION BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL SAYS HLA IS "PREDATOR" VICTIMIZING PARENTS AND CHILDREN.  WAKE UP, PEOPLE.   :skull:
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« Reply #149 on: December 19, 2005, 12:42:00 PM »
I think it depended on the counselor, when I left HLA they told me that they would fire my counselor if I came back. Then they fired him and I still refused to go back, they (higher staff) told me how sorry they were for the way he treated me. My folks weren't happy that I sent almost three months sleeping on the floor because I was restricting my food. That was one of the reasons I was there, don't fucking punish me for issues I came to fix. I think the abuse, if any was mental. I was fucked up after HLA though, lots of trust issues. I was like, I'm not going anywhere or admitting anything-somebody's going to come into my room at 3am and take me away! People just looked at me like I was crazy, there like your eighteen, nobody's going to put you away.
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Stew, some of what you said is true--you're right, we do have the opportunity to choose our own paths. I believe in that whole hartedly, but HLA made me feel like every choice I made was manipulated by authority. I felt like I could never really trust the motives of staff, were they making me stand out in the cold rain late at night because they really wanted to heal my wounds?? I went to another program after HLA, they were horrified by the stories I had from HLA. You can't punish someone's pain out of them.
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Okay, can any of you apologists defend this? Please post any research that would support standing in the cold rain late at night or sleeping on the floor for 3 months as an appropriate treatment for an eating disorder.

This young woman is wiser than her degreed counselors and the policy makers at HLA when she states, "You can't punish someone's pain out of them."
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