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« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2005, 10:33:00 PM »
If I were Amanda, I might just need a little space from anybody who had an opinion on the matter.

I'm guessing she'll fall on her face in a big way, pick herself up, dust herself off and move on and not complain to anyone. This may happen repeatedly, as it usually does. But, if she has half the discretion I think she does, she'll hold her cards close and come through just fine.

Go Amanda! You have a good many fans!

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« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2005, 10:47:00 PM »
::jawdrop:: By the way did you know that the Bomba's (the directors of the ALA Mexico facility are listed as fugitives in Mexico? I will try to post the article from the newspaper in Guadalajara.



Get a life and stop bashing a kid you know nothing of. And thank you for your prayers.





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« Reply #77 on: January 18, 2005, 12:24:00 PM »
In your post you said that basically her life will be crap if she dosen't stop doing what she is doing. What exactly is it that she is doing??? Getting away from people that are trying to control and change her and break her spirit? I am a former "bad teen" as some like to put it. I am now 35 years old and can tell you that when it is time to stop playing the games and doing whatever it is that you are doing as a teen, you will stop. I have a wonderful husband, 2 beautiful sons and a life that I was once told that I would NEVER have. People in Sarasota looked down on me, they tried to put me in LIFE until I made my parents see what they did there. I ended up in Palms hospital. I was told that I was a bad kid, put on drugs, had all outside contact taken away from me, etc... obviously not the HELL that alot of my friends that ended up in LIFE went through.

Anyway, didn't mean to ramble, but I want to say that Amanda will straighten up when the time is right (and who's to say that there is anything wrong with her?). God gives each and every one of us a sense of discernment and when we realize that we have this gift, we start to use it. So to Amanda I say, take care of you, you are the only one that can. And never let them take you down! You will always look back and think that there were things that you did that you probably should not have done, but everything that we do in life makes us stronger.

Good Luck!
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« Reply #78 on: January 19, 2005, 07:05:00 PM »
well said
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« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2005, 10:15:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-11 16:03:00, Paige wrote:

"Amanda is fine. She did not run away and again you are just showing your lack of knowledge.

Amanda came to me and told me her plans to move out and get an apartment with a friend of hers. I was not thrilled with this but could not talk her out of it. She has moved out. She did not run, she was not taken in the middle of the night by anyone and believe it or not she has a job and is doing well with her job.

 
I had dinner with her the other night and she is fine. Would I prefer for her to be here with her brother and I - Yes but at least we can see her and talk to her whenever we want to. If you will remember she was not aloud to spend time with her brother or talk to anyone else in the family so this is an improvement and she is not in that God forsaken place called the ALA with all of those fruitcakes.

 She is almost 18 and looking to make her own way. Will she make mistakes - probably. I still love her and she is still a member of my family. Children do grow up and leave home. I am sorry if you have been misled. We are all fine.

By the way did you know that the Bomba's (the directors of the ALA Mexico facility are listed as fugitives in Mexico? I will try to post the article from the newspaper in Guadalajara.



Get a life and stop bashing a kid you know nothing of. And thank you for your prayers.





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Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.  You and I both know you are worried about the legal ramifications of her running from you.  If you have any sense at all, you'd have to be worried.  Afterall, you are one of the ones behind kidnapping her.  

You can fool most of the people, most of the time, as evidenced by your support (something you appear to have in common with the looser of the Presidential race), but you cannot fool those who really know what is going on.

As far as staff members of ALA, your bringing that up is nothing more than a tactic to deflect the heat from yourself.

I think what this whole drama boils down to, is you are jealous of her family, of which you are really not a part of.

I went to ALA when it was in Mexico.  I saw her in Mexico.  Her mom came down to visit her, contrary to the trash you posted about her not doing so.  

I don't ever expect you to admit it to me, or anyone else, especially yourself, but, it is evident, you are jealous.

Your rantings sound like that of some grade school girl. That is a normal deflection.  Rather than deal with your own insecurities and relationship voids, it is easier for you to pick apart others.

The lot of you sound like play ground bullies.  When others don't agree with you, you call names and gang up on those who don't agree with you.  Very sad indeed.  

Bottom line, what you still have not grasped, is the fact that YOU ARE NOT THE PARENT!!!!  It was not your right to interfere with the parents and their choice of how they dealt with THEIR daughter.  It would appear that you have never had any of your own children.  I am willing to bet that you aren't in a stable relationship either.  (Its called deductive reasoning).

I feel sorry for you.  It is evident there is no joy in your life.  You appear to be a miserable person.  I truly feel sorry for you.  Not only have you deceived others through your drama, but you have deceived yourself into believing that your actions are acceptable.  They are not.  

I am willing to bet her family has never done anything to harm you.  You are just jealous.  And you don't care who you hurt, because it is all about you.  

Did you ever stop to think how your actions have negatively impacted many people?  Do you even care how much your actions have caused others to be hurt?  Can you respond to that without using the word "I"?

It is not all about you.  You have made numerous references about the brother.  Do you have any feelings for the sisters?  Again, do you care about anyone but yourself?

I didn't expect that you would be a big enough person to admit you were wrong.  She ran from you.  You can call it what you want, but she ran.  

Before you get all bent out of shape, remember, you started this whole drama.  Maybe next time you will stop and think before airing your dirty laundry in a public forum.  

The more you try to defend her and defend your illegal actions, the worse you make yourself look.  Anyone with half a brain can see through it all.
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« Reply #80 on: January 19, 2005, 10:21:00 PM »
::heart::
 
   it is hard to say but i love the people who sent me to mexico too because i would not be as strong as i am w/ out going through all the shit i have been through. i know i can deal with anything now.I know it is going to be okay and i will make it all work.
 God is good and has helped me.

 :smile: So anyway this is the Update on Amanda's life hope you enjoyed it! :smile:

 :wave:  Amanda
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« Reply #81 on: January 20, 2005, 12:09:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-11 16:03:00, Paige wrote:


"Amanda is fine. She did not run away and again you are just showing your lack of knowledge.


Amanda came to me and told me her plans to move out and get an apartment with a friend of hers. I was not thrilled with this but could not talk her out of it. She has moved out. She did not run, she was not taken in the middle of the night by anyone and believe it or not she has a job and is doing well with her job.


 
I had dinner with her the other night and she is fine. Would I prefer for her to be here with her brother and I - Yes but at least we can see her and talk to her whenever we want to. If you will remember she was not aloud to spend time with her brother or talk to anyone else in the family so this is an improvement and she is not in that God forsaken place called the ALA with all of those fruitcakes.


 She is almost 18 and looking to make her own way. Will she make mistakes - probably. I still love her and she is still a member of my family. Children do grow up and leave home. I am sorry if you have been misled. We are all fine.


By the way did you know that the Bomba's (the directors of the ALA Mexico facility are listed as fugitives in Mexico? I will try to post the article from the newspaper in Guadalajara.





Get a life and stop bashing a kid you know nothing of. And thank you for your prayers.








"




Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.  You and I both know you are worried about the legal ramifications of her running from you.  If you have any sense at all, you'd have to be worried.  Afterall, you are one of the ones behind kidnapping her.  



You can fool most of the people, most of the time, as evidenced by your support (something you appear to have in common with the looser of the Presidential race), but you cannot fool those who really know what is going on.



As far as staff members of ALA, your bringing that up is nothing more than a tactic to deflect the heat from yourself.



I think what this whole drama boils down to, is you are jealous of her family, of which you are really not a part of.



I went to ALA when it was in Mexico.  I saw her in Mexico.  Her mom came down to visit her, contrary to the trash you posted about her not doing so.  



I don't ever expect you to admit it to me, or anyone else, especially yourself, but, it is evident, you are jealous.



Your rantings sound like that of some grade school girl. That is a normal deflection.  Rather than deal with your own insecurities and relationship voids, it is easier for you to pick apart others.



The lot of you sound like play ground bullies.  When others don't agree with you, you call names and gang up on those who don't agree with you.  Very sad indeed.  



Bottom line, what you still have not grasped, is the fact that YOU ARE NOT THE PARENT!!!!  It was not your right to interfere with the parents and their choice of how they dealt with THEIR daughter.  It would appear that you have never had any of your own children.  I am willing to bet that you aren't in a stable relationship either.  (Its called deductive reasoning).



I feel sorry for you.  It is evident there is no joy in your life.  You appear to be a miserable person.  I truly feel sorry for you.  Not only have you deceived others through your drama, but you have deceived yourself into believing that your actions are acceptable.  They are not.  



I am willing to bet her family has never done anything to harm you.  You are just jealous.  And you don't care who you hurt, because it is all about you.  



Did you ever stop to think how your actions have negatively impacted many people?  Do you even care how much your actions have caused others to be hurt?  Can you respond to that without using the word "I"?



It is not all about you.  You have made numerous references about the brother.  Do you have any feelings for the sisters?  Again, do you care about anyone but yourself?



I didn't expect that you would be a big enough person to admit you were wrong.  She ran from you.  You can call it what you want, but she ran.  



Before you get all bent out of shape, remember, you started this whole drama.  Maybe next time you will stop and think before airing your dirty laundry in a public forum.  



The more you try to defend her and defend your illegal actions, the worse you make yourself look.  Anyone with half a brain can see through it all.













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Amanda is a grown woman, she is supporting herself, and she is continuing her education.

Children grow up and move out and get jobs and pay their own bills and make their own decisions.

Get over it already.

You are living proof of one of the things I've said is wrong with program parents---a lot of what you people get your panties in a twist about in these kids are just signs that the kid is growing up and leaving the nest and going to be making his/her own decisions---and you folks are for some reason incapable of dealing with a kid growing up into a new adult and moving out to have a life.

I don't know what in the hell is wrong with you, and at this point, I don't much care, but grow up and get over it.

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« Reply #82 on: January 20, 2005, 01:48:00 AM »
This is so sad. Amanda is doing fine on her own and is clearly demonstrating the lack of a need of ANY program - shes not dead, insane, or in jail - shes obeying the law, has a job, can take care of herself, and isnt doing drugs, and shes probably too busy to get a boyfriend - so pretty much every program maniac's accusations fall on their face under the weight of reality.

Then on top of that all they can cling to is she is 'rebelling' against some god (The one I speak to doesnt know what they're talking about) her parents (who shipped her off to that program in the first place instead of raising her, and shes obviously doing so well now its unnecessary) or, the program itself.

This is so fucking amusing. Shes doing GREAT *DESPITE* everything, and you think she should go back. Trying to cling to something for control of her life when she neither needs it nor wants it - and only for the sake of control - is terrible and pathetic.

Shes more grown up than they are. And the only thing God's doing is laughing.

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« Reply #83 on: January 20, 2005, 08:56:00 AM »
And I must say... The most recent post by Amanda shows great improvement in her academic grammar and composition skills!

Not to be pedantic here, but it's true that a working knowledge of standard English composition goes a long way to making one's position clear.

Way to go, Amanda!
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« Reply #84 on: January 20, 2005, 02:03:00 PM »
Thank you very much for the encouraging words!
thanks
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« Reply #85 on: January 24, 2005, 06:56:00 PM »
quit lying Amanda
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« Reply #86 on: January 24, 2005, 08:45:00 PM »
Just because you say it, doesn't make it so. You and I both know you are worried about the legal ramifications of her running from you. If you have any sense at all, you'd have to be worried. Afterall, you are one of the ones behind kidnapping her.

You can fool most of the people, most of the time, as evidenced by your support (something you appear to have in common with the looser of the Presidential race), but you cannot fool those who really know what is going on.

As far as staff members of ALA, your bringing that up is nothing more than a tactic to deflect the heat from yourself.

I think what this whole drama boils down to, is you are jealous of her family, of which you are really not a part of.

I went to ALA when it was in Mexico. I saw her in Mexico. Her mom came down to visit her, contrary to the trash you posted about her not doing so.

I don't ever expect you to admit it to me, or anyone else, especially yourself, but, it is evident, you are jealous.

Your rantings sound like that of some grade school girl. That is a normal deflection. Rather than deal with your own insecurities and relationship voids, it is easier for you to pick apart others.

The lot of you sound like play ground bullies. When others don't agree with you, you call names and gang up on those who don't agree with you. Very sad indeed.

Bottom line, what you still have not grasped, is the fact that YOU ARE NOT THE PARENT!!!! It was not your right to interfere with the parents and their choice of how they dealt with THEIR daughter. It would appear that you have never had any of your own children. I am willing to bet that you aren't in a stable relationship either. (Its called deductive reasoning).

I feel sorry for you. It is evident there is no joy in your life. You appear to be a miserable person. I truly feel sorry for you. Not only have you deceived others through your drama, but you have deceived yourself into believing that your actions are acceptable. They are not.

I am willing to bet her family has never done anything to harm you. You are just jealous. And you don't care who you hurt, because it is all about you.

Did you ever stop to think how your actions have negatively impacted many people? Do you even care how much your actions have caused others to be hurt? Can you respond to that without using the word "I"?

It is not all about you. You have made numerous references about the brother. Do you have any feelings for the sisters? Again, do you care about anyone but yourself?

I didn't expect that you would be a big enough person to admit you were wrong. She ran from you. You can call it what you want, but she ran.

Before you get all bent out of shape, remember, you started this whole drama. Maybe next time you will stop and think before airing your dirty laundry in a public forum.

The more you try to defend her and defend your illegal actions, the worse you make yourself look. Anyone with half a brain can see through it all.



 :wstupid:   (Craig´s words)
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« Reply #87 on: January 24, 2005, 08:45:00 PM »
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"quit lying Amanda"


Oh blank you ya blankin' moron and quit harrassing and cyber-stalking this young woman who is clearly paying her own bills and living up to her own responsibilities in society in a productive and legal way.

You're just jealous because she's more a mature adult than *you* are, no matter how old you are.  Obviously.

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« Reply #88 on: January 24, 2005, 09:54:00 PM »
:roll:
On 2005-01-24 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"quit lying Amanda"
:roll:

Quit being stupid, baghead.

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« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2005, 12:05:00 AM »
Knock it off church lady.
You remind me of the catholic grandmother in YaYa Sisterhood who fucked up two generations.
Haven't seen it? Check it out. Pay close attention. It could give you some insight into how rabid you are.
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