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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2004, 11:56:00 AM »
In addition to judgment, this commentary reeks of guilt, manipulation, fear-based coercion. Using the 'fear of god' to motivate Amanda to... do what? Return to home she does not want to live in?  You folks who are preaching need to let go and let god....
Even if this is one big mistake... your bible tells a story that might apply here. The prodical child. Remember him. He who didn't blindly follow his father. He who was allowed to persue his own path. He who was celebrated when he returned. Celebrated and appreciated even more than his brother who blindly followed? Remember him? Now apply that to this situation and see if it brings you any peace. Restrain yourself.
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« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2004, 04:42:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-06 19:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

 The advisary has a strong hold on you. He is the one who has brainwashed you. He has brainwashed you into believing that what you are doing is ok. It is not. Stop deflecting your dishonorable actions. Those who you seek to gain approval from on this forum don't know the Lord. You do. You know, deep down, that what you are doing is wrong. You can bad mouth your parents all you want, Viva, but the bottom line is you do know right from wrong. Those who give you support on this forum are deceived, you are not. You know the truth. You know, as well as I do, that God will hold you accountable for your actions. When it is your turn before God to give an accounting for your choices, you will not be able to deceive and manipulate Him as you have done with all the others. He knows your heart. You can lie to the "adult" you are living with, you can deceive those who give you support; but you can't deceive and lie to God. He knows the truth. And so do you. Who am I? Just another person who has read the postings, however, I have not been deceived


Truely amazing! I want to tell you, anon, how honored we all are to have a visit from the one and only person on the planet capable of discerning over the net who is and who is not deceived by "the advisary".  :rofl:  

Viva, not that you need me to tell you this, but I don't think this person's advice regarding your mother and/or father is very good. But who knows, maybe we're all just deceived by the avisary and you should look them up and ask what they want you to do. [/sarcasm]

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« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2004, 06:20:00 PM »
I know many of the people involved and it is a sad situation but i can tell you that the child is doing well living with her younger brother and as far as I can see the writings by the "loser Goomba" as you have called this person who is being so rude to this young lady is indeed her mother who shipped her off. Do you really expect her to admit that she was wrong in what she did? check out the article about the 74 kids that were taken from the facility she was sent to for unsanitary conditions. It has been posted here on Fornits.

Hello, Lise. I see that you are still as sanctimonious and abusinve towards this child as ever. May God have mercy on you. You may be able to fool many people but you can not fool God. and thank God that you can not do any more harm to this child.
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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2004, 01:14:00 AM »
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« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2004, 01:25:00 AM »
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« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2004, 12:31:00 PM »
Ah.  It all becomes clear.  The rants about "honor thy mother" are coming from...the adoptive mother.

Lot's daughters were mothers, too.  That didn't make them particularly nice people.

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« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2004, 03:12:00 PM »
Ok, I just read the post by someone who says that they know all of us and they do have the names but not the proper info and really all this does is show that there are many sides to every story and this is just another version.

Obviously this person does not know me at all or they would know that I asked to adopt Amanda and I was willing to take both children. When Johnathon was in need of a home Amanda was stabilized with her Great Grandmother. Some time after that Ma Maw who is now 96 became incapable of caring for her. She began spending time with the C's while I was talking with the rest of the family about taking her to live with her brother and I. Yes Amanda was rejected by 2 families not 6 or 7 and she was rejected because their biological son was mean to her and said to his parents that he did not want her there. At that time the C's expressed an interest in keeping Amanda but not adopting her.
Amanda seemed to be happy there and I agree that in the beginning it seemed a good situation especially since her best friend was their daughter and they agreed that she would never be kept from  her brother or the other family members. Things went awry as some things do.
What I can attest to is that things changed and eventually it was not the loving happy picture with perfect parents that you have painted. If it was Mrs. C would never have anounced to me and others that she did not like this child and was sorry she had adopted her. she called on numerous occassions screaming and calling this child horriblle names and using obscenities that I am sure you have never heard coming out of her mouth. If there was that much of a problem there were many different ways to handle it. Many mistakes were made by all including the C's.But who are the adults here? The C's. They are to be held responsible for their mistakes just as the child or should it be moreso because they are adults?

However that is a moot issue - the only issue at hand now is that this child is getting on with her life and getting an education that she was never allowed to have. By the way I had all kinds of test run on her when she got home. Her intelligence level is extremely high (in the uper 9 percentile). This is documented by professionals. Documentation by the state shows that she was an A student proir to The C's taking her out of school at approx age 10. She did not fail - however her "sister" was failing and I believe ther is substantial documentation for that as well.

I can appreciate your loyalty to the C's but your information is very wrong and family members of the C's are more than happy to confirm this. If you have a bone to pick take it up with me and use your name so I know who you are unless you are afraid that you may be proven wrong, and since you know me so well why don't you call me and I can show you all documentation
that proves what I am saying. But then again it doesn't really matter because that is in the past and we are looking towards the future. As far as the C's go. I wish them well. I think they loved Amanda to some degree and I know that Amanda loved them and still does.The goal would be for someday for them to be able to forgive and heal all wounds. Time will tell and until then Amanda is in counseling, going to School, going to church and getting her life together.
I wish you well and hope that you to can forgive a young woman who has made mistakes recognizes that and is moving on to a good and solid future.

Best wishes to you.
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« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2004, 06:36:00 PM »
The stories are true! They didn't have toilet paper,or healthy food, and the male staff molested a girl student. The staff stole and took the kids medications. The good staff were fired. The girls nurse/doctor had no credentials and neither did other supposed "trained" staff. They were just locals that worked for cheap. Students had no adequate medical care and had there belongings stolen. These are all true stories.
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« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2004, 06:57:00 PM »
so, where is the money?????   I´m sorry for the parents, looks like C ":nworthy:" has too many words to say.....
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« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2004, 08:15:00 PM »
I have a question for the anonymous that appears to be so angry with this girl Amanda? What would you have her do. It appears that all of this you speak of happened quite some time ago and that she is well established were she is. So is she to wear a hair shirt? Is she to move back to the parents that she obviously doesn't get along with and she was adopted by these people so they are not biological parents but legally her parents and emotionally her parents. So she is to live with these people instead of her brother who lives with his adopted family? which seems to be her choice (right or wrong) and she is 17? about to be 18. what is it that you want her to do???????? I'm confused what is your goal?

It just sounds like your a very mad at her and want to make her unhappy or more unhappy than she was for whatever reason. You know teenagers are just a bit on the wacky side and it is very normal for teens to rebel sounds more normal than maybe it is but again I ask what is it that you want from her? and what exactly is your goal for your harsh words to this struggling young woman?
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« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2004, 10:30:00 PM »
If the stories are true, you need to file a report with ISAC.
http://www.ISACcorp.org
You can maintain your anonomy and tell someone who knows how to get it investigated; documented and hopefully stopped.
If your just repeating rumor, and don't in fact know any of this, then please consider, you could be seriously harming good people.
The officials in MX didn't clam there was any abuse or violation of the student's rights. They were very clear on that point.
So, if you feel you Know differently; you need to tell someone that can make a difference.
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« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2004, 12:17:00 PM »
Yes, they are true there are too many young people coming home from there telling the same stories.I'm not so sure that ISAC can make a difference so far there has been enough info leaking about ALA and ISAC appears to have done nothing or even turn a blind eye? However as bad as this place may be it seems that it is still one of the better ones in comparison to the others.
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« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2004, 01:20:00 PM »
ISAC never turns a blind eye to the kind of allegations you have made.
Now, if you, in a state of agitation, have made statements that are less than factual; be they rumor or total fantasy; you should apologize.
If you, wanting to make the point things in MX were less than ideal; and feeling that the reality isn't quite enough to explain how unhappy you were with being there; and so you have built a story more in line with how you felt, than with reality - Then you need to admit this and apologize.
But *if* what you say is true, you are obligated to tell someone and be precise enough to be believed. There is nothing ISAC or anyone can do about rumors on Fornits from anonymous sources. If you aren't willing to do this, one has to wonder why?
And I do personally feel it is worth noting the MX officals may have dicided they didn't want the gringo school in their country; But they were very clear, that in the case of ALA, there were no alligations of abuse or humnan rights violations.
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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2004, 10:09:00 PM »
I suppose that depends on your definition of abuse and or neglect and human rights and the Mexican authorities were notified as well as the American Consulate.
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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2004, 10:49:00 PM »
IT'S EASY:   JUST GO THERE (CHAPALIA) AND ASK THE PEOPLE....EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN KNOW THIS:  THEY HAVE BIG PROBLEMS WITH ALL KIND OF AUTHORITIES AND LANDLORD (LANDLADY). THE DIRECTOR DOESN'T GO THERE 'CAUSE THE POLICE IS LOOKING FOR HIM.  TOO SAD, AND EVERYTHING "IN JESUS NAME".... BAH! ::noway::
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