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[Anonymous]

And I do personally feel it is worth noting the MX officals may have dicided they didn't want the gringo school in their country; But they were very clear, that in the case of ALA, there were no alligations of abuse or humnan rights violations.



They said that during the raid their human rigths were not violated, and what happend inside is the reason the mx officials closed down the operation....

[Anonymous]

"It is important to stress that none of the raids involved violence, and the human rights and personal safety of the youths were fully respected," the Interior Department press statement said.............................


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[BuzzKill]

I think we are reading the same phrase and understanding something different.
Do you really think the MX folks are simply stating *They* didn't go in with guns blazing, or what? That *They* didn't beat up the kids?
I think it is a clear statment that the school wasn't closed Because of abuse or rights violations.
My understanding of events is they simply arrived and announced the school must leave; either volentarily, or by deportation. Didn't ask to see anything or even consint to look at the visas.
My personal feeling is, places like Casa left such a bad impression, they dicided to clean out all American founded schools. A Why take chances approach. Or maybe, they feel it will be easier to keep programs like Casa out if none are allowed.
Thats my take on it.
I am Sure ther will be a lot of disagreement. . .

[Anonymous]

Hey Buzzkill is that you Karen? Are you still the family coordinator for ALA?

[Ryan]

So is ALA forever closed?
If so kismet has concured.
Yes we were low on stuff like toilet paper,
medical assistance, and when we asked for medical assistance they took weeks to a month to finally react. Even if the sickness was terribly dangerous. I was there when the federalis took a teacher Marie, a student named Steve, Lee, Matt, and Josh were tooken to Mexican Jail. I was split up with a group of five in a different house formed into two different PPC's. House 1 the original with 9 students, then House 2 with 5. Meanwhile when federalis were looking for visa's House 2 was given order to hide in the back of the house where they couldnt see us. They stayed in that jail for almost a week and were transported by bus to a different location. Roger claims since Matt's dad was a big man of law he helped out to get custody back into the programs hands then sent them to Utah. All of them were sent home except for Josh and Matt. Josh was sent back to Mexico in Ajijic. MAtt stayed in Utah. The boys moved around into three different homes as the population started growing. When in Talachichilco things were alright then until the good american staff were either fired or bailed. At first we had service role for example "Wheaties Man" (The Chef) This role would cook breakfast and luch. But there was a hired cook that cooked dinner. Her name was Concha. She also had her daughter assist her. When the cooks were sick they would still cook. Finally when they thought they were getting everything settled they purchased property dor a school where we could go do school work. Then they hired "professional cooks" that cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The kitchen they cooked in was not sanitary. Where we ate in the cafeteria was always a swarm of flies. Sometimes we would find a fly in our hot suace or soup etc. People started getting really sick. When terribly sick they would make the sick ones sleep on the office instead of letting them rest in their beds. Sometimes there was over 7 people sick that would lounge in the office. No body hardly ever did there school work. There was no safe place for any important items, like school work or neccesities regarding hygiene would end up missing. My labtop with a book I was writing on it was stolen, and never returned. Lots of people that went to this program would agree with what I'm saying 95% of the students left with not even half of thier belongings that went through inventory were returned home. Anywayz way to much to say.
Gotta go!
                    Odios,
                        Friend :wave:

[Anonymous]

Are you sure?  I think you must tell the parents all this....   :tup:

[Anonymous]

Ryan, I am sure that ALA will not be shut down permanently. People in this industry are business people and know how to circumvent laws both in and out of htis country. I am very glad that you are speaking out and tell people what it was like there. It is very important that people know exactly how it is there. I believe you and your story confirms what I have been told by another person who had been there. I believe you and would encourage you to continue to speak out. I look forward to reading more of your posts and hope that your life is moving forward. Please let me know how you are doing and what is going on with your life. You have many choices now and i hope your life will be better for you.

[Anonymous]

::  :em:

[Anonymous]

On 2004-12-13 09:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ah.  It all becomes clear.  The rants about "honor thy mother" are coming from...the adoptive mother.



Lot's daughters were mothers, too.  That didn't make them particularly nice people.



Timoclea



"

No, I am not.

[Anonymous]

Ok, so you are not the mom but we figured out who you are and you have listened to the ranting and ravings of a woman who is a few bricks shy of a load and if you are who I think you are you have a child there at ALA.
Was she taken out of there in the raid? I hope she is doing well.
Amada is doing extremely well since she has come home to a loving environment and has been removed from people who still find it necessary to slander her and keep HER survivor benefits from her deceased father. It almost appears as if the money has always been more important than what would have been best for the child but then again it doesn't matter anymore she doesn't have to deal with them anymore and she will be receiving her benefits starting in January.
I wonder what they did with the money (A sizable chunk in the thousands and they are wealthy) since august when she came to live with us. Gee I guess they just kept it or spent it. HMMMMM such good Christians.

I am sorry that you have been deceived by this woman and continues to slander this child unmercifully.

I hope your daughter is well.

[Anonymous]

Its not OK to hold the benifits.
The benifits must go to whom ever the child is living with to be used for her care and or education. Whoever she is residing with should be the designated payee. Keep in mind, you will have to account for how the money is saved or spent and hefty penilties are attached to any kind of fraud. If you are her ligitimet gaurdian, call soc sec and explain the situation to them.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-12-31 07:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ok, so you are not the mom but we figured out who you are and you have listened to the ranting and ravings of a woman who is a few bricks shy of a load and if you are who I think you are you have a child there at ALA.

Was she taken out of there in the raid? I hope she is doing well.

Amada is doing extremely well since she has come home to a loving environment and has been removed from people who still find it necessary to slander her and keep HER survivor benefits from her deceased father. It almost appears as if the money has always been more important than what would have been best for the child but then again it doesn't matter anymore she doesn't have to deal with them anymore and she will be receiving her benefits starting in January.

I wonder what they did with the money (A sizable chunk in the thousands and they are wealthy) since august when she came to live with us. Gee I guess they just kept it or spent it. HMMMMM such good Christians.



I am sorry that you have been deceived by this woman and continues to slander this child unmercifully.



I hope your daughter is well."

Actually Paige, I am connected through a family friend who has a granddaughter in the program.  I have never met Amanda's parents.  However, I do feel badly for them, seeing as they have been bad mouthed so unmercifully by you and the others.

And now, seeing that Amanda has run away from you, I feel badly for you as well.  How you must hurt.  You accused her parents of such terribel things and have supported her outright rebellion of them.  Now you are on the receiving end of it.  I truly feel sorry for you.  

I have been praying for you.  While I don't agree with your interferring with their parental rights, I am sure you did what you did because you love her and thought you were helping her.  

You weren't.  You were enabling her.  She has now turned on you.  How disappointing, to have poured your heart and soul into helping her and broadcasting to the world how happy she was with you, only to get slapped in the face by her taking off on you as well.  

At this point, it seems evident, you owe her parents an appology.  You did everything differently, and ended up with the same results.  You have said Amanda is doing extremely well since she came home to a loving environment.  What happened?  If her parents are the horrible people you have painted them to be, then what does that say of you?  

Paige, don't take it personally.  It isn't you.  It wasn't her parents.  It is her.  She continues to make bad choices.  Unfortuantely, it would appear that she is going to have to hit rock bottom before she gets better.  

You encouraged her rebellion.  I guess she was a good student.

[Antigen]

On 2005-01-07 17:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

Actually Paige, I am connected through a family friend who has a granddaughter in the program. I have never met Amanda's parents.

So then everything you think you know about these Texans comes to you through a friend of a relative of a parent who hasn't had any unmonitored contact w/ the kid lately. And this kid may or may not know Amanda if she were to walk up to her on the street and give her a big old kiss on the face, but certainly wouldn't be at liberty to tell anybody if she thought Amanda and Paige were dead on correct in their assessment of the parents and the program.

Is that about accurate?
 :roll:

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor

[Paige]

Amanda is fine. She did not run away and again you are just showing your lack of knowledge.
Amanda came to me and told me her plans to move out and get an apartment with a friend of hers. I was not thrilled with this but could not talk her out of it. She has moved out. She did not run, she was not taken in the middle of the night by anyone and believe it or not she has a job and is doing well with her job.
 
I had dinner with her the other night and she is fine. Would I prefer for her to be here with her brother and I - Yes but at least we can see her and talk to her whenever we want to. If you will remember she was not aloud to spend time with her brother or talk to anyone else in the family so this is an improvement and she is not in that God forsaken place called the ALA with all of those fruitcakes.
 She is almost 18 and looking to make her own way. Will she make mistakes - probably. I still love her and she is still a member of my family. Children do grow up and leave home. I am sorry if you have been misled. We are all fine.
By the way did you know that the Bomba's (the directors of the ALA Mexico facility are listed as fugitives in Mexico? I will try to post the article from the newspaper in Guadalajara.

Get a life and stop bashing a kid you know nothing of. And thank you for your prayers.

[Timoclea]

If I was Amanda, I might want to move out on my own just to prove to myself that I *could*.

Being a prisoner is traumatic.  There has to be the desire, afterwards, to prove to yourself that you're truly free.

She has a job, she's supporting herself, and she's still in contact with Paige and her brother.

She's nearly 18.

"Run off" is melodramatic.

We're not talking about a kid living on park benches and whoring in the streets for money to buy crack.

We're talking about a young lady working at a respectable, legal job and paying her own bills and paying her own way in society as a responsible young adult.

Maybe the reason she wanted to move out is that it will be more difficult for her parents to kidnap her again if she gets emancipated minor status?  Who knows?  Certainly if she has a job and an apartment and is paying her own bills, her adoptive parents' legal situation gets *much* more tenuous if they try to reexert control over her.

A young lady getting a job and living under her own roof paying her own way is only a "problem" for people that live in lala land.

Will she need to go back and get her GED and pick her education back up at the local junior college later?  Certainly.  But she won't be the first person to successfully do that.

In all probability, she's a little metaphorically claustrophobic about any situation that even feels remotely like confinement right now, and no wonder.

She's spreading her wings and proving to herself that she's adult and free.  It's normal and healthy.

Graduating and *then* moving out would probably have been better, but under the circumstances, given what she's been through, I don't blame her a bit.

My god, what kind of nutter do you have to be to call a girl who's nearly 18, with an apartment, and a job, who's maintaining ties to her brother and a responsible adult a "runaway."

It's medieval!  It's like those jihad johnies who expect a girl to go meekly from father's roof to husband's roof.

She's not breaking any laws, she's not being a drain on society, she's just being independent---and at about the right age to do so.  For God's sake give the girl a break!

Timoclea

Instead of giving money to fund colleges to promote learning, why don't they pass a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting anybody from learning anything? If it works as good as the Prohibition one did, why, in five years we would have the smartest race of people on earth.
--Will Rogers