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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2003, 10:14:00 PM »
For what this might be worth, and it won't be much, as I am an unknown sorce, speaking of what I herd from another unknown sorce; but anyway; as for the action aginst WWASP; RUMOR has it, they will be announcing very soon. I am under the impression this means days as opposed to weeks; but I really do not know.
RUMOR has it, that WWASP has been given notice.
SO, I do think time draws near. Might turn out to be weeks and not days, but time draws near.

And Ginger, it matters to us all very much. Far more so than any other pending leagle problem.

Even so, some of us are also pretty concerned about this other mess Carey has made. It just so happens, that those who worked so hard, and put so much energy and effort into bringing about the pending class/direct action, are the same souls most effected by Carey's viciousness and spite.





I wish there was some way we could throw a big bash when Huron announces.
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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2003, 10:19:00 PM »
Same argument, still not convincing.

There's still a lot I don't know. I understand that no one can answer these questions till all the Jabberwocks are well sated. And even then there might be permanent gag orders and such. So the world may never know.

What exactly was in those emails that could any of it hurt children or prevent them from getting out of WWASP?

How are we, the uninitiated, to know for sure that anyone involved in this really has any better plans for these kids that WWASP does?

Why should I care if PURE gets sued out of existance any more than I would have cared if that had happened to the LIFE program for scalping Straight clients, for example?

More importantly, how do you propose to know for sure what Carey was thinking. The only reason any of us have any cause to bump into each other at all is that either we or our parents or both fucked up in very big ways. Most of us figure it out after awhile. Some never do.

What if Carey just simply fucked up, suffered a lapse in judgement, misidentified innocent people for evil monsters (much as you seem to be doing to me now, just like the Program ppl have always done to all teenagers)

Whatever your resources, if you care about saving kids, then why would you take the time, money and trouble to triffle with Carey. If she betrayed your trust, well then don't trust her with anything, Einstein! But NooOOoo! You have to call for vengence and more suffering, snitch to the authorities and watch as they turn Carey (and, by association, her sons') lives upside down.

That or maybe ya'll are just blowing smoke, fucking with people's minds again.

Our youth can not understand why society chooses to criminalize a behavior with so little visible ill effect or adverse social impact... These young people have jumped the fence and found no cliff.

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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2003, 10:23:00 PM »
And are you really sure she understood all the implications? Cause there are crimes and then there are mistakes. We all have made mistakes. Is there some good reason to pursue legal action, aside from the sheer joy ya'll seem to be taking in the prospect of Carey suffering? Is anyone likely to be helped in any way by it? Or is it just vindictive as hell?

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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2003, 10:28:00 PM »
Ginger, I can't speak for everyone, but, I do not "fuck" with anyone's mind.  If I say it is going to happen, it is, take it to the bank.  Defend her all you want, I would love to tell you the reasons, but, you are too locked up in defense of Carey and down on everyone else.  I care about Huron's law suit, I just don't care if anyone makes money off of this.  I only care that justice is done and Carey has tried to prevent this.  Talking to you, does no good.  Fortunately, you are the only survivor that I have dealt with who has no common sense.  Marti, Shelby, (shall I go on) are the greatest people in the world.  I support them 100%.  I wish I could add you, but, you are too bitter and mis informed.
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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2003, 10:29:00 PM »
With the Carey emails...


Um, Ginger... whatever Carey tells them (WWASPS)just gives them that much ammo to back themselves up with when time comes in court. Either that or putting together a hefty countersuit in some situations.



Either way, it sounds like a bunch of baloney threats to me. Similar to how my parents threatened that there were monsters under the bed, or if I kept mouthing off I'd get sent to boot camp...oh wait, that one really happened.


I guess the little boy who cried wolf quit bitchin... and everyone is just imagining this wolf because they heard about it.

Ain't no lawsuit comin', not now, not never.
Unfortunate... but that's the truth I think. A whole bunch of hogwash.

Whatever happened to that fraud Ryan Fraidenburgh? Hopefully you can pick his Coldwater up where you  get those free CD's for AOL.. like sometimes they have them at Burger King, or tucked inside the junk mail... His lackadaisical story didn't go anywhere either.

As for the covert "unknown source," who received their information from another "unknown source," does ANYBODY know ANYTHING these days? Come on, it's the National Enquirer, not the bible!


Best advice --- do your own thing, the courts ain't coming to rescue us anytime soon.
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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2003, 10:35:00 PM »
Sorry about your experience.  This ain't hogwash.  When your parents said they would send you, they did.  I am also sorry about that.  And you can believe, this law suit will come about soon.
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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2003, 10:53:00 PM »
I'll be celebrating! About a week later after I'm done spreading the word everywhere appropriate and then caught up on a little sleep, I'll surely drink to that!

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked,  and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that  the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque  self-deception."  
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2003, 10:54:00 PM »
" I support them 100%. I wish I could add you, but, you are too bitter and mis informed"

More of this same "higher purpose" shit. If I don't believe you and trust you implicitly, I must have it in for the kids? Get over yourself!

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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2003, 11:00:00 PM »
Well okay, Anon, if YOU say there's a lawsuit, then there MUST be a lawsuit.

I'll be waiting for it... just as I longingly await Tupac's resurrection,a woman president, Jesus's return, and the rebirth of acid wash jeans.


Ya got me all excited now! Shucks!
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2003, 11:07:00 PM »
What's the matter Ginger?  You didn't get those answer's when you called Huron's office and asked for information so you have to solicit it on here?  Oh yes, we were informed that you had called and wanted the scoop....Do you think for one minute that Huron is going to give you or anyone any information about the class action if your not involved. :wstupid:
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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2003, 11:12:00 PM »
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"Ginger, I can't speak for everyone, but, I do not "fuck" with anyone's mind.  If I say it is going to happen, it is, take it to the bank.  Defend her all you want, I would love to tell you the reasons, but, you are too locked up in defense of Carey and down on everyone else.  I care about Huron's law suit, I just don't care if anyone makes money off of this.  I only care that justice is done and Carey has tried to prevent this.  Talking to you, does no good.  Fortunately, you are the only survivor that I have dealt with who has no common sense.  Marti, Shelby, (shall I go on) are the greatest people in the world.  I support them 100%.  I wish I could add you, but, you are too bitter and mis informed."


Good God, Anon.  What happened to your critical thinking skills?  Not everyone shares your point of view but that does not make them "bitter and misinformed".  

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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2003, 11:28:00 PM »
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On 2003-11-16 20:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What's the matter Ginger?  You didn't get those answer's when you called Huron's office and asked for information so you have to solicit it on here?  Oh yes, we were informed that you had called and wanted the scoop....Do you think for one minute that Huron is going to give you or anyone any information about the class action if your not involved. :wstupid: "

What I asked was whether or not you people cared about that suit. What I got back is that yeah, some do, but really, some of you could give a crap.

And I want to clarify something here.
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Defend her all you want, I would love to tell you the reasons, but, you are too locked up in defense of Carey and down on everyone else.


Pour over every last post and please show me where I have ever made a statement to the effect that I'm sure Carey didn't turn over this info just as you claim she did? I've never said that because I've never been convinced of it.

"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it." --Aristotle

Are you able to wrap your lawschooled mind around a concept like that?

I just want to know what was in those emails and why you're so convinced that your accusation is true. But you never answer that question in a responsive way. You respond by slamming Carey some more. Just piles upon piles upon piles of the lowest, most obscene kinds of ad homenems. Not a shred of substantiation.

Asif your thinking that she's a drunk or a vindictive ex wife is somehow supposed to convince me of the validity of this other claim you're pressing against her?

Oh, and BTW, the seeds for the class action go all the way back to before you put your kid in a WWASP program. Please don't try and take credit for things you haven't done. It's just very undignified.

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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2003, 11:35:00 PM »
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On 2003-11-16 20:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What's the matter Ginger?  You didn't get those answer's when you called Huron's office and asked for information so you have to solicit it on here?  Oh yes, we were informed that you had called and wanted the scoop....Do you think for one minute that Huron is going to give you or anyone any information about the class action if your not involved. :wstupid: "


Who is "we"?
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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2003, 11:38:00 PM »
I never had my child in a WWASP program.  I am connected out of concern of all you survivors.  Yes, Ginger, you included.  You ask if maybe Carey had made a mistake and we should just forget it.  Could you, if you were still locked up and her mistake cost you staying there?  The info she gave WWASP made numerous people nervous about responding to parents in need of answers.  Is this right?  Maybe, I was ugly earlier to you, if so, I apoligize, I just ask you to understand what Carey's actions have done.  Mistakes like this hurt kids.
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2003, 11:43:00 PM »
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On 2003-11-16 20:07:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Oh yes, we were informed that you had called and wanted the scoop....




Who is "we"?  "


Oh, I missed that in all the excitement. You were misinformed. I emailed once asking if the rumor were true that they were preparing such a suit and never heard back. In this season of paranoia, I can see why they might not respond to every inquery.

Thing is, I want it to be true and I want it to be headline busting news all over the place. If just one successful class action can be brought and if it includes the types of abuses that are a common thread through all these programs, the industry is done.

How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate, they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to.
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