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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #540 on: July 10, 2010, 07:04:25 PM »
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I see you're avoiding Danny's statements and trying to shift the focus to me.  I think Danny really got your number and now you're just avoiding his comments.  Trying to make jokes doesn't change what you said or that Danny called you out.

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Hey Whooter,
One more time please, would you with absolute clarity explain what you meant by this statement, If I may be
frank, I am a little confused myself.

I run a medium size business, I have fiduciary responsibilities as others within my company, we also have the same fiduciary commitments to our customers, I have always assumed that we were talking about finances and loyality to those financial agreements/contracts.

Don't let him try to fool you , Danno.  Confusion is his game.

Thanks DJ, I am not confused at all when it comes to Whooter. I understand that one or two things are happening here, 1) he used the word out of context and being the intellectual he is does not want to admit this or 2) he had a responsibility in brokering the deal between the TTI's.
Now in either case I really don't have a problem for two reasons, 1) everyone has a ego and they can get caught up in it, especially they way he has been misaligned here (not necessarily saying this as a judgment, just a fact of the situation)he could find himself in a double bind here...lol, 2) Well in my opinion everyone has to make a living, so brokering deals is just as good as any other, ya know DJ he could have just stumbled across Fornits in his background investigation for the customer, went to Chicago for more information and thrown in his daughter to make it all look legitimate, so he can keep posting here with some legitimacy, I don't know.
Maybe there is a third reason, he is a father of daughter who went to a program, does broker deals as a source of income, stumbled unto a deal for TTI's and went to Chicago to do background work for the sale. (There is no way he can even discuss this here or imply this anymore if it is true, for many legal reasons, as you know.)
I have my idea of what is happening here and the sad thing, he is under non-disclosure agreements that if he broke them he would be out of business.
So we can keep talking about this until the cows come home, he can't say anymore then he has. That is just my opinion.
Now do I think he fucked up, yes big time, you don't infer what he has without elaboration, especially on a site such as this. Your just asking for the shit he has been put through and will be put through.
Does he have a daughter that went through a program, I hope so because to make up a story as such to distract attention away from the original issues would be very sad.
These have been some of my thoughts on the issue.
Maybe in the end we find out Whooter got carried away with his words, as we all do at times and can't seem to take them back, right now.
Sounds shallow Whooter, just guessing don't take to much offense.

No offense taken Danny,  your response was well thought out and open minded.  Its good to see that some people can step back and look at all the many options and not get so caught up and angry over a persons every word.  In the end it really doesnt matter, I know what I said and why I said it (as I explained).  Everyone else is free to draw their own opinions.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #542 on: July 10, 2010, 09:23:48 PM »
Keep up the good work Whooter.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #543 on: July 10, 2010, 09:41:44 PM »
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Who cares if Whooter owns a dozen programs?

Would you just ask him out already?

Shit... enough of all this foreplay. :)

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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #544 on: July 11, 2010, 09:49:27 AM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
I am not confused at all when it comes to Whooter. I understand that one or two things are happening here, 1) he used the word out of context and being the intellectual he is does not want to admit this or 2) he had a responsibility in brokering the deal between the TTI's.

I think you've hit on something here, Danny, although I would say "pseudo-intellectual."

In case #1 he doesn't even know what the term means, which indicates he has no business education or accumen and could not possibly run a business that buys and sells other businesses, as he claims to do for a living.  In case #1, he's just a self-inflated phony trying to make others believe he is a VIP but failing miserably at it.

In case #2 he's lying wholesale about his role in the TTI which makes him a lying phony.

Thanks for poining out these two obvious conclusions.  It's what I've been saying all along, only when you say it, Whooter accepts it, thus proving my point - he's a complete fake.

FWIW, the deal never happened and he would have no continuing duty as a broker anyway.  So he could openly discuss everything about it without penalty of any sort.  There's no confidentiality required for "The Deal That Never Was."

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Short story: TheWho = industry marketing drone / general asshole

The Who works in marketing and research in Newton Mass.  His clients are unidentified, however they are suspected by his postings (who he defends) to be Aspen, or possibly NATSAP (or both).  He admitted to having a fiduciary duty involving HLA (or it's acquisition) and is rumored to also go by the alias of David Sullivan. ( mergers-aquisitions@yahoo.com )
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #545 on: July 11, 2010, 02:11:52 PM »
Ha,Ha,Ha  keep working it.  You are not even close, but it is fun to watch.  How about working the whole John Reuben angle back into it.  Try to figure out how he could broker deals and a run a non-profit...   lol.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #546 on: July 11, 2010, 02:29:55 PM »
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Quote from: "DannyB II"
I am not confused at all when it comes to Whooter. I understand that one or two things are happening here, 1) he used the word out of context and being the intellectual he is does not want to admit this or 2) he had a responsibility in brokering the deal between the TTI's.

I think you've hit on something here, Danny, although I would say "pseudo-intellectual."

In case #1 he doesn't even know what the term means, which indicates he has no business education or accumen and could not possibly run a business that buys and sells other businesses, as he claims to do for a living.  In case #1, he's just a self-inflated phony trying to make others believe he is a VIP but failing miserably at it.

In case #2 he's lying wholesale about his role in the TTI which makes him a lying phony.

Thanks for poining out these two obvious conclusions.  It's what I've been saying all along, only when you say it, Whooter accepts it, thus proving my point - he's a complete fake.

FWIW, the deal never happened and he would have no continuing duty as a broker anyway.  So he could openly discuss everything about it without penalty of any sort.  There's no confidentiality required for "The Deal That Never Was."

More Aliases, too?
Quote from: "psy"
Short story: TheWho = industry marketing drone / general asshole

The Who works in marketing and research in Newton Mass.  His clients are unidentified, however they are suspected by his postings (who he defends) to be Aspen, or possibly NATSAP (or both).  He admitted to having a fiduciary duty involving HLA (or it's acquisition) and is rumored to also go by the alias of David Sullivan. ( mergers-aquisitions@yahoo.com )


No DJ, I think you may be wrong on your comment he can discuss past associations concerning acquisitions. He is under non-disclosure agreements, I'm sure. Also if they are still his customer they would really not appreciate him doing this. His fiduciary responsibilities are clearer now then before, if in fact he does work for a company in Newton, Ma. doing M&R, he would very much be held bound to ethical responsibilities concerning fiduciary directions. His team are the point men in any acquisition, so they are privy to costs, he just does not necessarily have any legal responsibility, though he still could get fired (blackballed) for breach of ethical standards.
This is all I am going to say about this subject because even though it goes to credibility of character, which I think could be argued forever, I don't have the bottom line evidence that you folks here are accusing him of....(yet).
Until that time I will go with his daughter was in a program, he likes the outcome of what his daughter learned so therefore wants to back programs, maybe also because of his excitement he went to work for a company that wants a true believer to help stick up for them and their programs. Big deal, at some point we have to deal with a different opinion.

Now one could say something similar about Ursus, look at the amount of time he is on here, the information he is able to get, the contacts he has..ect. Ursus has cultivated a entire data base of information against the TTI.
I would suspect that Ursus is either disabled, retired, being compensated by someone or thing or independently wealthy (trust fund baby). We don't think of this because he is speaking the language of fornits, which btw I have no problem with. I just don't see this inquiry going on with him.

DJ I have said this before there is always going to be a ying and yang, black and white, polar opposits....ect.
He happens to carry the opposite here.
I also don't have a problem with you holding him to the truth, Whooter has mislead folks with his earlier posts, why he does not just acknowledge this "I don't know". But keep the fire on DJ just maybe keep it at a lower flame, I don't know.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #547 on: July 11, 2010, 03:08:12 PM »
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Now one could say something similar about Ursus, look at the amount of time he is on here, the information he is able to get, the contacts he has..ect. Ursus has cultivated a entire data base of information against the TTI.
I would suspect that Ursus is either disabled, retired, being compensated by someone or thing or independently wealthy (trust fund baby). We don't think of this because he is speaking the language of fornits, which btw I have no problem with. I just don't see this inquiry going on with him.

DJ I have said this before there is always going to be a ying and yang, black and white, polar opposits....ect.
He happens to carry the opposite here.
I also don't have a problem with you holding him to the truth, Whooter has mislead folks with his earlier posts, why he does not just acknowledge this "I don't know". But keep the fire on DJ just maybe keep it at a lower flame, I don't know.

Just about everyone on fornits could be attacked for a past post or two or questioned about what they meant at the time or why they spend so much time here.  As a random example we pressured DJ at one point about his academic requirements and he went off and started altering his posts from 5 years ago.  So we could hold his feet to the fire for that, it just depends on what you want to spend your time on.  Personally I like discussing the current issues instead of dwelling on DJ's past posts that he covered up.

All my posts are out there for people to interpret the way they want.  I have no intention of going back and changing what I said previously.  I have always been open about them and stand behind them.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #548 on: July 11, 2010, 03:52:37 PM »
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Quote from: "DannyB II"

Now one could say something similar about Ursus, look at the amount of time he is on here, the information he is able to get, the contacts he has..ect. Ursus has cultivated a entire data base of information against the TTI.
I would suspect that Ursus is either disabled, retired, being compensated by someone or thing or independently wealthy (trust fund baby). We don't think of this because he is speaking the language of fornits, which btw I have no problem with. I just don't see this inquiry going on with him.

DJ I have said this before there is always going to be a ying and yang, black and white, polar opposits....ect.
He happens to carry the opposite here.
I also don't have a problem with you holding him to the truth, Whooter has mislead folks with his earlier posts, why he does not just acknowledge this "I don't know". But keep the fire on DJ just maybe keep it at a lower flame, I don't know.

Just about everyone on fornits could be attacked for a past post or two or questioned about what they meant at the time or why they spend so much time here.  As a random example we pressured DJ at one point about his academic requirements and he went off and started altering his posts from 5 years ago.  So we could hold his feet to the fire for that, it just depends on what you want to spend your time on.  Personally I like discussing the current issues instead of dwelling on DJ's past posts that he covered up.

All my posts are out there for people to interpret the way they want.  I have no intention of going back and changing what I said previously.  I have always been open about them and stand behind them.

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Dude unless you have blatantly lied to me consider this conversation closed, I will probably have nothing more to say. Just please don't make a fool out of me if I am backing you or for that matter anyone else. I appreciate your take on things here Ido not always agree but I don't expect to, I was a past programme, you were not. Though your daughter was, which does count for a lot, in my book anyway.
Folks don't make a big deal out of what I said here please, I am not brokering a deal with the devil, for heavens sake. I for one am tired of the bickering, especially when we are on a thread trying to help a 15 year old girl and the only thing we can do, is have a competition as to who is right in our advice to her.
Whooter's and fornits advice does not even reach the level of contradicting, you both are concerned for her safety but look at some programs differently as far as academics and the treatment being advocated.
Some of you folks want to argue where does his motivations lie, well it is really none of your business personally, no one is under any obligation to reveal anything in order to post a comment. Yes it is nice to know but some times I think it is more of a hindrance to know these things. It creates divisions here, which are not accepted well.
Just my opinion......
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« Reply #549 on: July 11, 2010, 04:13:44 PM »
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Quote from: "DannyB II"

Now one could say something similar about Ursus, look at the amount of time he is on here, the information he is able to get, the contacts he has..ect. Ursus has cultivated a entire data base of information against the TTI.
I would suspect that Ursus is either disabled, retired, being compensated by someone or thing or independently wealthy (trust fund baby). We don't think of this because he is speaking the language of fornits, which btw I have no problem with. I just don't see this inquiry going on with him.

DJ I have said this before there is always going to be a ying and yang, black and white, polar opposits....ect.
He happens to carry the opposite here.
I also don't have a problem with you holding him to the truth, Whooter has mislead folks with his earlier posts, why he does not just acknowledge this "I don't know". But keep the fire on DJ just maybe keep it at a lower flame, I don't know.

Just about everyone on fornits could be attacked for a past post or two or questioned about what they meant at the time or why they spend so much time here.  As a random example we pressured DJ at one point about his academic requirements and he went off and started altering his posts from 5 years ago.  So we could hold his feet to the fire for that, it just depends on what you want to spend your time on.  Personally I like discussing the current issues instead of dwelling on DJ's past posts that he covered up.

All my posts are out there for people to interpret the way they want.  I have no intention of going back and changing what I said previously.  I have always been open about them and stand behind them.

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Dude unless you have blatantly lied to me consider this conversation closed, I will probably have nothing more to say. Just please don't make a fool out of me if I am backing you or for that matter anyone else. I appreciate your take on things here Ido not always agree but I don't expect to, I was a past programme, you were not. Though your daughter was, which does count for a lot, in my book anyway.
Folks don't make a big deal out of what I said here please, I am not brokering a deal with the devil, for heavens sake. I for one am tired of the bickering, especially when we are on a thread trying to help a 15 year old girl and the only thing we can do, is have a competition as to who is right in our advice to her.
Whooter's and fornits advice does not even reach the level of contradicting, you both are concerned for her safety but look at some programs differently as far as academics and the treatment being advocated.
Some of you folks want to argue where does his motivations lie, well it is really none of your business personally, no one is under any obligation to reveal anything in order to post a comment. Yes it is nice to know but some times I think it is more of a hindrance to know these things. It creates divisions here, which are not accepted well.
Just my opinion......

Being anonymous is one of the strengths of fornits.  If people had to sign in and reveal their real names there would be very few posters here.  I am really not interested one way or another who people are here.

If we can keep the attacks on a single thread like this one it may keep the arguments from spilling over and derailing threads like Academy at Sisters.  I think once DJ gets the whole fiduciary issue out of his system the climate will clear and we will be able to have more balanced and productive discussions.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #551 on: July 11, 2010, 05:10:08 PM »
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Whooter I am questioning your veracity and motication in this thread. This is important for people to hear. You claimed to have access to Robert Bruce's treatment records at HLA that revealed "gay issues." In addition you tried to identify Mr. Bruce on fornits, but has been wrong about his ID.

I can just as easily say that you claimed to be a member of the Nazi party.  That you claim I am John Reuben but are wrong about my id.

This is an open forum.  People can say whatever they want.  I am not sure what your point is.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #552 on: July 11, 2010, 07:24:35 PM »
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Keep up the good work Whooter.


Yes, Whooter.. Keep up the good work.  "Suck It" needs you!

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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #553 on: July 12, 2010, 09:28:50 AM »
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He is under non-disclosure agreements, I'm sure. Also if they are still his customer they would really not appreciate him doing this. His fiduciary responsibilities are clearer now then before, if in fact he does work for a company in Newton, Ma. doing M&R, he would very much be held bound to ethical responsibilities concerning fiduciary directions. His team are the point men in any acquisition, so they are privy to costs, he just does not necessarily have any legal responsibility, though he still could get fired (blackballed) for breach of ethical standards.
This is all I am going to say about this subject because even though it goes to credibility of character...

I agree.  Whooter is definitely tied up in TTI businesses and doesn't want to admit it because he has cultivated the "I am just a regular parent" theme here so as not to appear to have monetary ties to the TTI.  I think you hit it right on the head.

As far as credibility of character goes, he has none, based on the above.

@Joel...RB is another poster here who went to HLA.  Whooter claimes to know his identity, posted (what he thinks is) it several times and also claimed to have "access" to RB's "treatment records" from HLA.  Who would have that access?  [/i]Not "just a regular parent"[/i] I assure you.  That's why he doesn't want to talk about it, because he has done some really heinous things to try to "expose" RB's identity on the forum.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #554 on: July 13, 2010, 10:14:23 AM »
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Whooter I am questioning your veracity and motication in this thread. This is important for people to hear. You claimed to have access to Robert Bruce's treatment records at HLA that revealed "gay issues." In addition you tried to identify Mr. Bruce on fornits, but has been wrong about his ID.

I can just as easily say that you claimed to be a member of the Nazi party.  That you claim I am John Reuben but are wrong about my id.

This is an open forum.  People can say whatever they want.  I am not sure what your point is.



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