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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #525 on: July 10, 2010, 02:29:19 PM »
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Now I am a secret agent who is brokering deals

Correction: Not-so-secret agent (aka fiduciary, the bearer of fiduciary duty).  You're the one who claimed to be a fiduciary in the prospective deal.  I just pointed it out and quoted you.  Now you're madly gyrating to downplay your words.  

I'll just link back to it again if you forgot what you claimed then which is vastly different from what you claim now, as Danny rightly pointed out.  I personally think he got you on this one, Whooter.  If you're trying to refute what Danny is saying, just take it up with him. ;)
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #526 on: July 10, 2010, 02:34:20 PM »
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That's what fiduciaries (also known as agents or brokers) do.  And you claimed to be one.  Not too hard to connect the dots.

Correction:
Oh No!!!  Now I am a Not-so secret agent who is brokering deals!!!  I hope I get one of those Bond girls!   Ha,Ha,Ha... DJ that is funny.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #527 on: July 10, 2010, 02:38:04 PM »
I see you're avoiding Danny's statements and trying to shift the focus to me.  I think Danny really got your number and now you're just avoiding his comments.  Trying to make jokes doesn't change what you said or that Danny called you out.

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Hey Whooter,
One more time please, would you with absolute clarity explain what you meant by this statement, If I may be
frank, I am a little confused myself.

I run a medium size business, I have fiduciary responsibilities as others within my company, we also have the same fiduciary commitments to our customers, I have always assumed that we were talking about finances and loyality to those financial agreements/contracts.

Don't let him try to fool you , Danno.  Confusion is his game.
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« Reply #528 on: July 10, 2010, 03:06:16 PM »
Sorry, DJ.  You can get Danny involved, if you like, in you search for background dirt.  Bring it on.  Like I said I have the admins here lay out my posts several times for all to see and when it came time to have your guest posts tied to your user name you tucked tail and ran each time.  We both know who is being open here.

I am sure you can find some posts where I contradicted myself if you keep looking, since I wrote over 4,000 I believe between thewho and whooter.  But since you are having such a hard time finding inconsistencies all these years tells you that I am being honest.  You on the other hand hide in the shadows and throw stones and that is why I dont have any respect for you.

I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.  You continue to hide from this and keep your guest posts hidden, which is fine and your choice.

You will never be able to tie me to the TTI because I am not associated with it.  Nothing you can do about it unless you make something up.  You on the other hand benefited financially from it and that bothers you for some reason.  But I just cant help you out with that, sorry DJ.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #529 on: July 10, 2010, 03:33:24 PM »
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Here Whooter claims to have intimate knowledge of an impending deal for AEG to buy HLA.  He says he can't discuss it due to his fiduciary interest and that it would be considered "tipping" if he did.

Definition of "Fiduciary Interest": n : legal term; assigned responsibility to act on behalf of an owner or owners in their best financial interest. When an individual represents a party or a group in a position of trust or confidence, it is that person’s duty to act primarily for the benefit of the party or group he/she represents. A fiduciary duty compels one to make decisions that are in the best financial interest of to the party represented.

Let me ask you, Whooter, how does "just a regular parent with no ties to the TTI" have a fiduciary interest in a transaction between two TTI entities that is so intimate to the deal that speaking about it would constitute tipping?  Exactly which party to this deal were you representing?  Which owner assigned you this responsibility?

Were you fibbing when you were bragging about this intimate knowledge and inability to speak of it due to your "fiduciary interest," or were you fibbing when you said you have "no ties to the TTI"?  Obviusly, these statements are mutually exclusive and both cannot be true.  So just tell us which one you have been shining us on about for the last five years.

It's no work for me.  You tied you to the TTI.  I just quoted you.  

Danny also called you on it.  Not sure how anyone could see that as me "digging dirt" on Danny.  He also just quoted you and commented about your statement that you were a fiduciary to AEG.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #530 on: July 10, 2010, 03:37:07 PM »
Sorry, DJ.  You can get Danny involved, if you like, in you search for background dirt.  Bring it on.  Like I said I have the admins here lay out my posts several times for all to see and when it came time to have your guest posts tied to your user name you tucked tail and ran each time.  We both know who is being open here.

I am sure you can find some posts where I contradicted myself if you keep looking, since I wrote over 4,000 I believe between thewho and whooter.  But since you are having such a hard time finding inconsistencies all these years tells you that I am being honest.  You on the other hand hide in the shadows and throw stones and that is why I dont have any respect for you.

I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.  You continue to hide from this and keep your guest posts hidden, which is fine and your choice.

You will never be able to tie me to the TTI because I am not associated with it.  Nothing you can do about it unless you make something up.  You on the other hand benefited financially from it and that bothers you for some reason.  But I just cant help you out with that, sorry DJ.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #531 on: July 10, 2010, 03:59:13 PM »
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It's no work for me.  You tied you to the TTI.  I just quoted you.  

Danny also called you on it.  Not sure how anyone could see that as me "digging dirt" on Danny.  He also just quoted you and commented about your statement that you were a fiduciary to AEG.

There it is again.  It still says you were a fiduciary to a deal between two programs.  Just click the link.  It's not my fault you volunteered this information.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #532 on: July 10, 2010, 04:02:28 PM »
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Sorry, DJ.  You can get Danny involved, if you like, in you search for background dirt.  Bring it on.  Like I said I have the admins here lay out my posts several times for all to see and when it came time to have your guest posts tied to your user name you tucked tail and ran each time.  We both know who is being open here.

I am sure you can find some posts where I contradicted myself if you keep looking, since I wrote over 4,000 I believe between thewho and whooter.  But since you are having such a hard time finding inconsistencies all these years tells you that I am being honest.  You on the other hand hide in the shadows and throw stones and that is why I dont have any respect for you.

I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.  You continue to hide from this and keep your guest posts hidden, which is fine and your choice.

You will never be able to tie me to the TTI because I am not associated with it.  Nothing you can do about it unless you make something up.  You on the other hand benefited financially from it and that bothers you for some reason.  But I just cant help you out with that, sorry DJ.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #533 on: July 10, 2010, 04:09:40 PM »
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It's no work for me.  You tied you to the TTI.  I just quoted you.  

Danny also called you on it.  Not sure how anyone could see that as me "digging dirt" on Danny.  He also just quoted you and commented about your statement that you were a fiduciary to AEG.

There it is again.  It still says you were a fiduciary to a deal between two programs.  Just click the link.  It's not my fault you volunteered this information.

It's not going to change just because you try to post the last word compulsively.  It's ^^right there^^ with your signature on it.  "Fiduciary interest" in AEG trying to buy HLA.  

Maybe you shouldn't say things like this if you don't want everyone else to know it.  Jes' sayin'.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #534 on: July 10, 2010, 04:31:20 PM »
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Sorry, DJ.  You can get Danny involved, if you like, in you search for background dirt.  Bring it on.  Like I said I have the admins here lay out my posts several times for all to see and when it came time to have your guest posts tied to your user name you tucked tail and ran each time.  We both know who is being open here.

I am sure you can find some posts where I contradicted myself if you keep looking, since I wrote over 4,000 I believe between thewho and whooter.  But since you are having such a hard time finding inconsistencies all these years tells you that I am being honest.  You on the other hand hide in the shadows and throw stones and that is why I dont have any respect for you.

I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.  You continue to hide from this and keep your guest posts hidden, which is fine and your choice.

You will never be able to tie me to the TTI because I am not associated with it.  Nothing you can do about it unless you make something up.  You on the other hand benefited financially from it and that bothers you for some reason.  But I just cant help you out with that, sorry DJ.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #535 on: July 10, 2010, 04:34:49 PM »
You tied you to the TTI.  I just quoted you.

I just clinked the link to your post and it states clearly you have a financial skin in the TTI game.  Can't avoid your own claims now, can you?  Take care, Champ.  I'm sure it will still be there next time we check back.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #536 on: July 10, 2010, 04:42:42 PM »
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Sorry, DJ.  You can get Danny involved, if you like, in you search for background dirt.  Bring it on.  Like I said I have the admins here lay out my posts several times for all to see and when it came time to have your guest posts tied to your user name you tucked tail and ran each time.  We both know who is being open here.

I am sure you can find some posts where I contradicted myself if you keep looking, since I wrote over 4,000 I believe between thewho and whooter.  But since you are having such a hard time finding inconsistencies all these years tells you that I am being honest.  You on the other hand hide in the shadows and throw stones and that is why I dont have any respect for you.

I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.  You continue to hide from this and keep your guest posts hidden, which is fine and your choice.

You will never be able to tie me to the TTI because I am not associated with it.  Nothing you can do about it unless you make something up.  You on the other hand benefited financially from it and that bothers you for some reason.  But I just cant help you out with that, sorry DJ.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #537 on: July 10, 2010, 05:09:38 PM »
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I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.



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You keep sayin' that, but somehow you never actually do it.   :rofl:  I believe you had it done one time and that's where all these quotes I am posting came from.  That was five years ago.  You have A LOT of anon posts and usernames since then that you seem to want to keep secret.

Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
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Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide).

Why, yes, it does interest me.  Please have it done right away, as you just offered to do.  I'll be glad to see the results straight away.

That was several days ago and you keep repeating it.  Still waiting...

You keep saying you're open and you're glad to do it, but it never happens, does it?  I guess it's you that is "tucking tail and running" huh?  Git 'er done, boy!  Unless of course you're fibbing about that too!  :deal:  :jamin:

Now that's two items that won't go away, but I have time, and so I will wait for you to deliver what you said you would.  You volunteered, so put up or shut up.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #538 on: July 10, 2010, 05:13:11 PM »
John are you still really playing this game? I thought for sure by now after having been exposed and humiliated time and time again you would have learned your lesson.


Some people just always have to try and ice skate up hill I guess.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #539 on: July 10, 2010, 05:50:56 PM »
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I see you're avoiding Danny's statements and trying to shift the focus to me.  I think Danny really got your number and now you're just avoiding his comments.  Trying to make jokes doesn't change what you said or that Danny called you out.

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Hey Whooter,
One more time please, would you with absolute clarity explain what you meant by this statement, If I may be
frank, I am a little confused myself.

I run a medium size business, I have fiduciary responsibilities as others within my company, we also have the same fiduciary commitments to our customers, I have always assumed that we were talking about finances and loyality to those financial agreements/contracts.

Don't let him try to fool you , Danno.  Confusion is his game.

Thanks DJ, I am not confused at all when it comes to Whooter. I understand that one or two things are happening here, 1) he used the word out of context and being the intellectual he is does not want to admit this or 2) he had a responsibility in brokering the deal between the TTI's.
Now in either case I really don't have a problem for two reasons, 1) everyone has a ego and they can get caught up in it, especially they way he has been misaligned here (not necessarily saying this as a judgment, just a fact of the situation)he could find himself in a double bind here...lol, 2) Well in my opinion everyone has to make a living, so brokering deals is just as good as any other, ya know DJ he could have just stumbled across Fornits in his background investigation for the customer, went to Chicago for more information and thrown in his daughter to make it all look legitimate, so he can keep posting here with some legitimacy, I don't know.
Maybe there is a third reason, he is a father of daughter who went to a program, does broker deals as a source of income, stumbled unto a deal for TTI's and went to Chicago to do background work for the sale. (There is no way he can even discuss this here or imply this anymore if it is true, for many legal reasons, as you know.)
I have my idea of what is happening here and the sad thing, he is under non-disclosure agreements that if he broke them he would be out of business.
So we can keep talking about this until the cows come home, he can't say anymore then he has. That is just my opinion.
Now do I think he fucked up, yes big time, you don't infer what he has without elaboration, especially on a site such as this. Your just asking for the shit he has been put through and will be put through.
Does he have a daughter that went through a program, I hope so because to make up a story as such to distract attention away from the original issues would be very sad.
These have been some of my thoughts on the issue.
Maybe in the end we find out Whooter got carried away with his words, as we all do at times and can't seem to take them back, right now.
Sounds shallow Whooter, just guessing don't take to much offense.
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