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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #510 on: July 09, 2010, 10:00:54 AM »
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Would you mind just answering the question?
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« Reply #511 on: July 09, 2010, 11:23:31 AM »
Anne, he already posted a lame, fake, phony non-starter "answer" that has been fully debunked by Danny (and me).  Danny is a small business owner and even he knows full well that what Whooter is using for an excuse does not a fiduciary duty make.  We all know this duty is solely between an agent and a principal and that there is no possibility that an uninterested third party can have this duty.  

Look, if what Whooter said were true, then every reporter in this country who ever got an inside tip and published it, like they do every single day, would be sued for breach of fiduciary duty.  Obviously, this has never happened and will never happen.  

His "explanation" is ludicrous.  And five years too late to have any credibility whatsoever.  Sorry, but the die has been cast and he can't backpedal out now.  He's a phnoy and FOS.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #512 on: July 09, 2010, 12:11:02 PM »
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Anne, he already posted a lame, fake, phony non-starter "answer" that has been fully debunked by Danny (and me).  Danny is a small business owner and even he knows full well that what Whooter is using for an excuse does not a fiduciary duty make.  We all know this duty is solely between an agent and a principal and that there is no possibility that an uninterested third party can have this duty.  

Look, if what Whooter said were true, then every reporter in this country who ever got an inside tip and published it, like they do every single day, would be sued for breach of fiduciary duty.  Obviously, this has never happened and will never happen.  

His "explanation" is ludicrous.  And five years too late to have any credibility whatsoever.  Sorry, but the die has been cast and he can't backpedal out now.  He's a phnoy and FOS.

Oh, as you know, I'm well aware of his tactics.  I just like to keep asking him because every time he dodges the question, it makes him look like even more of a weasel than he already does.  Especially when the question comes from someone who, for the most part, stays out of the fray of these 'debates'.

He absolutely will not answer the direct question, because he knows what it'll do to whatever is left of his credibility and damage his attempts at damage control for the industry.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #513 on: July 09, 2010, 12:49:00 PM »
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Anne, he already posted a lame, fake, phony non-starter "answer" that has been fully debunked by Danny (and me).  Danny is a small business owner and even he knows full well that what Whooter is using for an excuse does not a fiduciary duty make.  We all know this duty is solely between an agent and a principal and that there is no possibility that an uninterested third party can have this duty.  

Look, if what Whooter said were true, then every reporter in this country who ever got an inside tip and published it, like they do every single day, would be sued for breach of fiduciary duty.  Obviously, this has never happened and will never happen.  

His "explanation" is ludicrous.  And five years too late to have any credibility whatsoever.  Sorry, but the die has been cast and he can't backpedal out now.  He's a phnoy and FOS.

Oh, as you know, I'm well aware of his tactics.  I just like to keep asking him because every time he dodges the question, it makes him look like even more of a weasel than he already does.  Especially when the question comes from someone who, for the most part, stays out of the fray of these 'debates'.

He absolutely will not answer the direct question, because he knows what it'll do to whatever is left of his credibility and damage his attempts at damage control for the industry.

Damage control?  Not sure I see any, but let me know when you do.  I am ready to give it a shot.  As far as answering the question I responded a few times here in this thread.  I think most people know that I respond to almost any posts (even in areas where I dont have much knowledge as someone pointed out lol).



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #514 on: July 09, 2010, 08:59:18 PM »
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Anne, he already posted a lame, fake, phony non-starter "answer" that has been fully debunked by Danny (and me).  Danny is a small business owner and even he knows full well that what Whooter is using for an excuse does not a fiduciary duty make.  We all know this duty is solely between an agent and a principal and that there is no possibility that an uninterested third party can have this duty.  

Look, if what Whooter said were true, then every reporter in this country who ever got an inside tip and published it, like they do every single day, would be sued for breach of fiduciary duty.  Obviously, this has never happened and will never happen.  

His "explanation" is ludicrous.  And five years too late to have any credibility whatsoever.  Sorry, but the die has been cast and he can't backpedal out now.  He's a phony and FOS.

As stated prior, Whooter's attempt to wiggle out of his financial involvement in kiddie jails is a failure.  Cat's out of the bag.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #515 on: July 09, 2010, 09:59:47 PM »
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Anne, he already posted a lame, fake, phony non-starter "answer" that has been fully debunked by Danny (and me).  Danny is a small business owner and even he knows full well that what Whooter is using for an excuse does not a fiduciary duty make.  We all know this duty is solely between an agent and a principal and that there is no possibility that an uninterested third party can have this duty.  

Look, if what Whooter said were true, then every reporter in this country who ever got an inside tip and published it, like they do every single day, would be sued for breach of fiduciary duty.  Obviously, this has never happened and will never happen.  

His "explanation" is ludicrous.  And five years too late to have any credibility whatsoever.  Sorry, but the die has been cast and he can't backpedal out now.  He's a phony and FOS.

As stated prior, Whooter's attempt to wiggle out of his financial involvement in kiddie jails is a failure.  Cat's out of the bag.

I am sorry this gives you so much heartburn DJ,  but you "did" asked the question and I answered it, but apparently (by your response) it wasn't the answer you wanted.  I don't have any financial involvement in the industry, never did.  I gave you my answer and backed it up with a definition of the words I used.  Its your right to believe it or not.  Its actually one of the strengths of the open forum system and allows for some very intense discussions on various subjects.  This one seems to be very personal with you but it doesn't matter either way how you feel about me nor does it effect my perspective on the industry.

Maybe you should think about keeping this fiduciary issue as part of your footer for some time longer.  This may help you to get past the personal grip this subject has on you.  If you have any further questions feel free to ask and I will continue to do my best to answer them,  as long as you are civil.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #516 on: July 10, 2010, 08:42:05 AM »
No sense trying to cover it up.  Your explanation is "up is down an black is white."  You got caught in another whopper.  You either are a fiduciary, in which case you lied about your TTI involvement or you're not and you lied about it to make yourself seem important.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #517 on: July 10, 2010, 09:11:29 AM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
No sense trying to cover it up.  Your explanation is "up is down an black is white."  You got caught in another whopper.  You either are a fiduciary, in which case you lied about your TTI involvement or you're not and you lied about it to make yourself seem important.

Yes, Seems we agree here finally.  I had a fiduciary Duty which I upheld by not disclosing the knowledge entrusted to me.  I sense that this burns you because this isolates you as the only one who lined their pockets for years with TTI money.  Your efforts to include me in your industry has fallen by the wayside.

I think this has been a good discussion so far, though, DJ.   You have managed to keep your temper down and disbanded with the name calling.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #518 on: July 10, 2010, 12:32:43 PM »
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Hey Whooter,
One more time please, would you with absolute clarity explain what you meant by this statement, If I may be
frank, I am a little confused myself.
I run a medium size business, I have fiduciary responsibilities as others within my company, we also have the same fiduciary commitments to our customers, I have always assumed that we were talking about finances and loyality to those financial agreements/contracts.
I can only hope that you comment on this post, you are under no commitment to do so but it would go a long way to clearing this up once and for all, for me.


Here is the comment I am talking about,
"I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved, this could be misconstrued as “Tippingâ€".

Thanks, Danny, for exposing this phony to the light of day.  I wouldn't go for his explanation either.  You showed with that quote and your explanation that he claimed to act as a broker in a possible sale of one program to another.  His words, not yours.  Why he would claim to be AEG's broker then claim he has "no ties to the TTI" is beyond reason.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #519 on: July 10, 2010, 01:45:01 PM »
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You spend so much time and effort discrediting a poster you also claim nobody takes seriously, so what is the purpose if you really believe that? Surely you have better things to do on a holiday weekend than discredit someone in a thread nobody will read. Or maybe this is a pressure valve of hatred left over from your personal life, in that case thank Whooter.  :timeout:


I wouldnt be too hard on DJ, it allows him to purge his anger and this is probably good for him.  He is working overtime to try to place me next to himself as one who lined his pockets with TTI money.  But he cant make it stick because he is the only one who took money from them and it bugs the crap out of him.  Its fun to watch though.



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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #520 on: July 10, 2010, 01:58:53 PM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Hey Whooter,
One more time please, would you with absolute clarity explain what you meant by this statement, If I may be
frank, I am a little confused myself.
I run a medium size business, I have fiduciary responsibilities as others within my company, we also have the same fiduciary commitments to our customers, I have always assumed that we were talking about finances and loyality to those financial agreements/contracts.
I can only hope that you comment on this post, you are under no commitment to do so but it would go a long way to clearing this up once and for all, for me.


Here is the comment I am talking about,
"I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved, this could be misconstrued as “Tippingâ€".

You seem to have hit it on the head, Danny.  

Legal Definition from US Legal: "Fiduciary duty is a legal requirement of loyalty and care that applies to any person or organization that has a fiduciary relationship with another person or organization. A fiduciary is a person, committee, or organization that has agreed to accept legal ownership or control and management of an asset or group of assets belonging to someone else."

Whooter said he was the fiduciary, therefore he was brokering the deal.
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« Reply #521 on: July 10, 2010, 02:01:16 PM »
Quote from: "Queef"

You spend so much time and effort discrediting a poster you also claim nobody takes seriously, so what is the purpose if you really believe that? Surely you have better things to do on a holiday weekend than discredit someone in a thread nobody will read. Or maybe this is a pressure valve of hatred left over from your personal life, in that case thank Whooter.  :timeout:


I wouldnt be too hard on DJ, it allows him to purge his anger and this is probably good for him.  He is working overtime to try to place me next to himself as one who lined his pockets with TTI money.  But he cant make it stick because he is the only one who took money from them and it bugs the crap out of him.  Its fun to watch though.


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« Reply #522 on: July 10, 2010, 02:02:09 PM »
Oh no!!!  Now I am brokering deals?  lol



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« Reply #523 on: July 10, 2010, 02:04:06 PM »
That's what fiduciaries (also known as agents or brokers) do.  And you claimed to be one.  Not too hard to connect the dots.
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« Reply #524 on: July 10, 2010, 02:10:44 PM »
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That's what fiduciaries (also known as agents or brokers) do.  And you claimed to be one.  Not too hard to connect the dots.

Oh No!!!  Now I am a secret agent who is brokering deals!!!  I hope I get one of those Bond girls!   Ha,Ha,Ha... DJ that is funny.



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