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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #120 on: November 30, 2009, 03:45:43 PM »
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The real launch of STICC was late December 2006

Show the readers a link to the announcement of this meeting or where this launch is documented for December 2006.  The STICC website states it as April 2004.  If you have other information we would like to see it.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #121 on: November 30, 2009, 03:51:13 PM »
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The real launch of STICC was late December 2006

Show the readers a link to the announcement of this meeting or where this launch is documented for December 2006.  The STICC website states it as April 2004.  If you have other information we would like to see it.

Well, that's the INCORPORATION DATE, but the launch was when they first started trying to place or placing kids.  I think we can agree on that, can't we?  What business has a grand opening on their incorporation date?  That's just plain silly.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #122 on: November 30, 2009, 03:53:41 PM »
I hope TheWho isn't trying to argue STICC was up and running in 2004 is he?  The website wasn't even roughed in until 2005.  They started placing kids in late 2006.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #123 on: November 30, 2009, 05:46:39 PM »
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The real launch of STICC was late December 2006

Show the readers a link to the announcement of this meeting or where this launch is documented for December 2006.  The STICC website states it as April 2004.  If you have other information we would like to see it.

Well, that's the INCORPORATION DATE, but the launch was when they first started trying to place or placing kids.  I think we can agree on that, can't we?  What business has a grand opening on their incorporation date?  That's just plain silly.

So what we have as a date is a launch date of April 2004.  Here is the link.
http://http://www.savingteens.org/

If you have another date just toss up the link and we can all take a look at it.  If you are goiong to call someone a liar you need to atleast provide your source to back you up.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2009, 05:57:13 PM »
So we examined the first one on your list and you cant even establish a link to your source.  How do you expect us to believe any of the others are lies?

You need to show thewho lied using some sort of document either posts or link to outside sources.  You havent done this yet.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #125 on: November 30, 2009, 06:30:08 PM »
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Well why dont you humor myself and the readers and take the first one and show us how you proved it:

Lie #1: Whooter claims he never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting.
Truth #1: Whooter had already bragged about it two years ago, but must have forgotten and was quoted saying he did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting. This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Nice try.  Now stick with the first question:

You say that I claim I never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting... First When was I asked this question and second what was my answer.  How did you conclude that I lied about anything?

Sure, I'll dumb it down for you just this once.

Whooter adamantly denying he was ever in Chicago, of course, a confirmed lie.

Quote from: "TheWho"
You say both? You could probably document this Reuben guy as being there, but how do you place me there? You say you have documented evidence. Evidence would mean I was posting from Chicago at the same time this meeting took place. That may raise some eyebrows I would say. But you see you dont have that evidence because I wasnt there.

Underlined emphasis added by me...

Well, you just denied being there in that post.  But of course, as we all know, you were lying and exposed for it.  Here's the link where you admitted it two years ago:

Whooter, in his own words, admits to the trip he was just denying.

Quote from: "TheWho"
Well, I PM?d several people here on fornits and eventually we formed a ?Statistical group? and decided to meet at the Hyatt in Chicago about a month ago. We spent 3 days hammering out a direction and figured we would tackle the TBS sector first.

Again, you are a proven liar.  We all know you do it, so why bother entertaining any more of your fallacious posts?  These are just quotes of you denying what you already said.  How dumb can you really be to think we wouldn't notice these lies???

Already done.  In your own words you denied being in Chicago and in your own words admitted it.  It's not that deep.

Funny you're quoting STICC's website to verify their "launch date."  Did you notice the website wasn't even prepared or launched until a year later?  So, what you're saying is if I want to be a car dealer and I incorporate to become one, my launch date or "Grand Opening" will be the same day, even though I have no dealership or any cars?  That makes no sense.  It's clear STICC got a rolling start with incorporation in 2004, website in 2005 and first placement solicitation in late 2006.  Those are undisputed facts.

Anyway, first you denied going to Chicago, then you admitted it.  One of those times you had to be lying.

As far as STICC's launch date, I was referring to when they created the Board of Advisors and went after their first placement.  That was late 2006.  STICC first solicited kids on August 28th, 2006, asking people if they wanted to be the first placed kid.  The Board was formed in late 2006 and added to the website December 30th, 2006, right after the meeting in Chicago.  That's a proven fact.  Denying it only makes you look worse, if that's possible.

In any case, you have stopped disputing that you did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting, now you're only disputing the phrase "launch date" as a last ditch effort, but you are failing as usual.  I know what I meant when I said it and I clarified for you.  I consider the "launch date" to be the first earnest effort to drum up business.  If you don't agree, oh well.  That issue is closed.  I accused you of going to Chicago in late December, 2006.  You denied it.  Then you were proved to be lying in your own words.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #126 on: November 30, 2009, 06:44:12 PM »
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As far as STICC's launch date, I was referring to when they created the Board of Advisors and went after their first placement. That was late 2006. STICC first solicited kids on August 28th, 2006, asking people if they wanted to be the first placed kid. The Board was formed in late 2006 and added to the website December 30th, 2006, right after the meeting in Chicago. That's a proven fact. Denying it only makes you look worse, if that's possible.

See now thats not too bad.  All you need to do is provide a link to where you got your dates from and show the meeting was in Chicago on or around January 2007 when my post says I was there.

I provided the link to my post showing I was in Chicago in January 2007 and that STICCs started in April of 2004.  So there is no lie so far.

So show us where you got your dates from (provide a link) and we can go from there and compare timelines.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #127 on: November 30, 2009, 06:54:48 PM »
You cant even prove you first lie, ajax13. How many did you put up there like 8? lol  You are not fairing too well.  It appears you relied on other peoples accounts and you have no facts to back you up.  Your friends left you fighting a lost cause.  Go ask Bruce for some back-up info.

Remember.. the next time you call someone a liar make sure you have your facts straight.  How stupid do you feel now?
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #128 on: November 30, 2009, 07:16:24 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Heck, I'll just go for all of them to save time.

Rebuttal section:

Quote from: "Guest"
Let's keep it short and go over just Whooter's lies from this

thread.


Lie #1:  Whooter claims he never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting.
Truth #1:  Whooter had already bragged about it two years ago, but must have forgotten

and was quoted saying he did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting.  This was proven

over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Whooter, in his own words, admits to the trip he was just denying.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #2:  Whooter claims to be just a "regular parent with no ties to

the industry."

Truth #2:  Whooter already admitted he was part of a "statistical group to assess TBS

safety" that met in Chicago.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting

the post where he already admitted it.

TheWho admitting to being an industry player and saying TBS "is where the money's at."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #3:  Whooter claims not be John Reuben.
Truth #3:  whooter has contacted at least one parent from this forum and provided her

the email address "onekidatatime@yahoo.com" for her to contact him "outside of Fornits"

because "everyone here has an agenda to discredit programs."  The email address has

been verified to be that of John Reuben and is the admin email account at

savingteens.org.  This was proven by posting the original PM from TheWho to Concerned

Parent, which TheWho subsequently altered in a quote and copped to altering it when

called out.

TheWho's PM to Concerned Parent is posted in its entirety.

Whois search for savingteens.org shows the email address Whooter provided belongs to John Reuben.


Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #4:  RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #4:  Whooter dropped this claim and went on to blame someone else for being

"Concerned Parent."  Interestingly enough, Whooter has actually claimed to BE

RobertBruce many times and later copped to fabricating at least one "lookalike"

RobertBruce login to try to impersonate him (the login he admitted to creating "for

fun" was 'RobertBruce .' with a space and a period at the end).

Whooter begins his claim that RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."

Whooter continues to hammer at the meme "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce" without a shred of evidence to suggest that.

...and hammering it some more...

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #5:  Ajax13 is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #5:  Ajax13 is not Concerned Parent, but Whooter clings to this meme like a life

raft anyway.

Here we have Whooter denying being himself, posting as "Dick Cheney" claiming Ajax13 and not RobertBruce "fabricated the PM."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #6:  Ajax13 AND RobertBruce are "Concerned Parent."
Truth #6:  Both are provably NOT "Concerned Parent."  Whooter seems to have dropped

this notion now because obviously they both couldn't be "Concerned Parent" at the same

time, but that simple logic didn't stop him from floating it to distract from the

conversation.

Here Whooter claims both RobertBruce and Ajax13 are "Concerned Parent."  Now he's veering all over the place grasping at straws with no proof.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #7:  Whooter claimed to have no criminal record when

confronted.

Truth #7:  Whooter had already admitted years ago, on this board, that he was "arrested

several times in Boston and once in Ann Arbor Michigan."

Whooter admitting to being arrested "many times in Boston" and elsewhere.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #8:  Whooter claims not to have lied at all.
Truth #8:  Whooter has been caught lying like a rug using only his own posts and PMs as

evidence of the lies.  Essentially, he lied about everything, then had to walk it all

back piece by piece as he was caught again and again.  Now the only thing from the

above list he won't cop to is being Reuben, but considering he lied about and was

proven lying about the rest of the items in this thread, his  assertion is just him

howling from being bitten so badly.

No link required, see above.  ; )

Quote from: "Guest"
So, that's 8 full-fledged, lie-through-your-teeth prevarications

offered by TheWho in just this single thread.
 People should believe him for what

reason now?

Sorry, Whooter, your lying chickens have come home to roost and nobody here believes

anything you say anymore.  Better luck next time.

Whooter has been fully owned yet again and busted out lying through his teeth yet

again.  Whooter, you better try something else, like going back to trolling with

endless emoticons to slow the page loading, because you are SO BUSTED in YOUR OWN WORDS

and you just can't hide anymore.  Your legacy here has cought up to you and just won't

go away.  Can't escape those facts, son.

There it is, again, with links.  First you claim you never went to Chicago and demanded proof that you did.  You then were supplied with a quote from your own post with a link to it showing you did indeed go to Chicago and you were very proud of it as well.  You can see the quotes and links above.  Right...up...there...again.

I think anybody reading this post can see quite clearly that the statements above are factually true, based on your own words.  You said one thing, then you said the opposite.  That's called "lying" because the statements "I wasn't there" and "I was there," of which you uttered both (see links above), are mutually exclusive.  Do you understand the difference between "I was there" and "I wasn't there"?  If not, we'll just move on without you.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #129 on: November 30, 2009, 07:24:33 PM »
All you showed was the link to my post that says I was in Chicago.  We all know this.  But where is the link that says I was lying?

Not doing to well there Ajax13.  Try to tie it together for us... it doesnt any lies.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #130 on: November 30, 2009, 07:26:49 PM »
Here is the first one you gave us (broken down)... where is the lie in this?

Quote from: "I wrote"


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you both took a trip to Chicago to meet with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen just before STICC was launched.
You say both?  You could probably document this Reuben guy as being there, but how do you place me there?  You say you have documented evidence.  Evidence would mean I was posting from Chicago at the same time this meeting took place.  That may raise some eyebrows I would say.  But you see you dont have that evidence because I wasnt there.  
So you said I was there just before STICC was launched.  STICC was launched in April of 2004.  You also said I was with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen.  Do you care to try to deny you said this?

In February of 2007 I wrote:
Well, I PM?d several people here on fornits and eventually we formed a ?Statistical group? and decided to meet at the Hyatt in Chicago about a month ago. We spent 3 days hammering out a direction and figured we would tackle the TBS sector first. We felt you were well respected here at fornits and had your hands around the other areas and were doing fine independently. Your name was brought up several times so you were not forgotten or left out.

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So where is the lie?
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #131 on: November 30, 2009, 07:34:06 PM »
I love this quote from TheWho, a "regular parent with no ties to the industry."

This sounds like a parent totally uninvolved in the Troubled Teen Industry, doesn't it?

Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: ""RobertBruce""
Oh no no no Cindy, you claimed there was a "long debate" and that it was decided that "we" were only going to look at TBS's as you define them.

Who specifically is "we"?

The debate was long, Bob...  many wanted to start with "Wilderness data" and I argued that the real money was in the TBS industry, so lets start there,* although wilderness is usually the inital phase of any decent TBS.  So we went round and round....you, Bob have been a key player in collecting and presenting data on the entire industry and I have been focusing on small segments at a time.
I dont want to put names out there, people want to be anon's.

*emphasis added by me

Isn't this what every, ordinary person in your neighborhood does?  Travel to Chicago for TTI meetings to assess safety of programs and alert other TTI players as to "where the money's at"?  

I think Whooter is snagged in another big problem that really wrecks his credibility.  The image he tries to portray here as "just a regular parent" doesn't make sense in light of his quotation above, does it?  The readers I think have another piece of solid evidence to consider in that one.  No way does your average, everyday parent do what he did.  Obviously only those with a financial stake in the TTI would be worried about "where the money's at"" at meeting in a city 1200 miles from home with a bunch of other, uninterested, uninvolved "regular parents."  That flat-out fails even the smell test.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #132 on: November 30, 2009, 07:46:00 PM »
No, Whooter, here's what I gave you.  I think you are confusing anons.  Let's stick to what I've been saying.

Below is my statement, with links, proving many lies you told.  You can read it again if you need to.  It's directly below.

Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Heck, I'll just go for all of them to save time.

Rebuttal section:

Quote from: "Guest"
Let's keep it short and go over just Whooter's lies from this

thread.


Lie #1:  Whooter claims he never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting.
Truth #1:  Whooter had already bragged about it two years ago, but must have forgotten

and was quoted saying he did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting.  This was proven

over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Whooter, in his own words, admits to the trip he was just denying.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #2:  Whooter claims to be just a "regular parent with no ties to

the industry."

Truth #2:  Whooter already admitted he was part of a "statistical group to assess TBS

safety" that met in Chicago.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting

the post where he already admitted it.

TheWho admitting to being an industry player and saying TBS "is where the money's at."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #3:  Whooter claims not be John Reuben.
Truth #3:  whooter has contacted at least one parent from this forum and provided her

the email address "onekidatatime@yahoo.com" for her to contact him "outside of Fornits"

because "everyone here has an agenda to discredit programs."  The email address has

been verified to be that of John Reuben and is the admin email account at

savingteens.org.  This was proven by posting the original PM from TheWho to Concerned

Parent, which TheWho subsequently altered in a quote and copped to altering it when

called out.

TheWho's PM to Concerned Parent is posted in its entirety.

Whois search for savingteens.org shows the email address Whooter provided belongs to John Reuben.


Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #4:  RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #4:  Whooter dropped this claim and went on to blame someone else for being

"Concerned Parent."  Interestingly enough, Whooter has actually claimed to BE

RobertBruce many times and later copped to fabricating at least one "lookalike"

RobertBruce login to try to impersonate him (the login he admitted to creating "for

fun" was 'RobertBruce .' with a space and a period at the end).

Whooter begins his claim that RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."

Whooter continues to hammer at the meme "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce" without a shred of evidence to suggest that.

...and hammering it some more...

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #5:  Ajax13 is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #5:  Ajax13 is not Concerned Parent, but Whooter clings to this meme like a life

raft anyway.

Here we have Whooter denying being himself, posting as "Dick Cheney" claiming Ajax13 and not RobertBruce "fabricated the PM."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #6:  Ajax13 AND RobertBruce are "Concerned Parent."
Truth #6:  Both are provably NOT "Concerned Parent."  Whooter seems to have dropped

this notion now because obviously they both couldn't be "Concerned Parent" at the same

time, but that simple logic didn't stop him from floating it to distract from the

conversation.

Here Whooter claims both RobertBruce and Ajax13 are "Concerned Parent."  Now he's veering all over the place grasping at straws with no proof.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #7:  Whooter claimed to have no criminal record when

confronted.

Truth #7:  Whooter had already admitted years ago, on this board, that he was "arrested

several times in Boston and once in Ann Arbor Michigan."

Whooter admitting to being arrested "many times in Boston" and elsewhere.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #8:  Whooter claims not to have lied at all.
Truth #8:  Whooter has been caught lying like a rug using only his own posts and PMs as

evidence of the lies.  Essentially, he lied about everything, then had to walk it all

back piece by piece as he was caught again and again.  Now the only thing from the

above list he won't cop to is being Reuben, but considering he lied about and was

proven lying about the rest of the items in this thread, his  assertion is just him

howling from being bitten so badly.

No link required, see above.  ; )

Quote from: "Guest"
So, that's 8 full-fledged, lie-through-your-teeth prevarications

offered by TheWho in just this single thread.
 People should believe him for what

reason now?

Sorry, Whooter, your lying chickens have come home to roost and nobody here believes

anything you say anymore.  Better luck next time.

Whooter has been fully owned yet again and busted out lying through his teeth yet

again.  Whooter, you better try something else, like going back to trolling with

endless emoticons to slow the page loading, because you are SO BUSTED in YOUR OWN WORDS

and you just can't hide anymore.  Your legacy here has cought up to you and just won't

go away.  Can't escape those facts, son.

There it is, again, with links.  First you claim you never went to Chicago and demanded proof that you did.  You then were supplied with a quote from your own post with a link to it showing you did indeed go to Chicago and you were very proud of it as well.  You can see the quotes and links above.  Right...up...there...again.

I think anybody reading this post can see quite clearly that the statements above are factually true, based on your own words.  You said one thing, then you said the opposite.  That's called "lying" because the statements "I wasn't there" and "I was there," of which you uttered both (see links above), are mutually exclusive.  Do you understand the difference between "I was there" and "I wasn't there"?  If not, we'll just move on without you.

Pretty clear, again.

Do you understand the difference between "I was there" and "I wasn't there"?  If not, we'll just move on without you.

Just repeating yourself isn't somehow going to change the fact that you admitted and denied going to Chicago.  One was a lie by definition.  You're not getting any traction with your repetition.  It's as invalid the tenth time as the first.  But, then again, it's what you do.  The only issue is that not even you believe what you're saying and that's a sad way to be.  

That expresses a deep, deep, level of frustration and, I personally believe, some sort of malignant narcissism where you somehow believe people must believe what you say because you are saying it.  News for you, jack: NOBODY believes what you say.  And that's a shame for you, but you created this problem by constantly lying and forgetting when and to whom you've lied, thusly getting caught lying all the time.  Why are you mad at other people for just pointing it out?  Geez.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #133 on: November 30, 2009, 07:56:16 PM »
Exactly, STICC's was Launched in April of 2007 (I provided you a link) and I was there in January of 2007 (I provided a link).  The post inwhich you stated I lied indicated that I was there prior to the launch of STICCS, which as you can see by the time line is not true.

Where is the lie?

You can continue to avoid the facts by posting another long post, Ajax13, or you can provide the readers with the steps of the lie you claim I made.
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Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« Reply #134 on: November 30, 2009, 08:01:10 PM »
Look I think I understand what is happening.

Ajax13,I understand that you need to save face in front of all the other regulars here.  But I pushed this issue because I wanted to point out that you don’t have any facts.  Your pushing lots of words out there with no back up.  You may have relied on others a little too much and got burned but that is a lesson for you.  Psy has read them all, also, and agrees there isn’t anything there.  I picked the first one on your list and you couldn’t even provide a link backing up a single discrepancy.
You can move on patting yourself on the back and selling you 8 lies,  but I think we understand each other.

If at some point you want to go thru them one by one let me know.
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