Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Whooter]

Funny.  First TheWho says "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce."  Next he says "Concerned Parent is Ajax13."  Then finally he says Concerned Parent is "Bruce/Ajax13."  Which is it?  One?  Both?  Neither?  The other?  I've seen Whooter get fully owned many, many times, but this time he's more desperate than I've ever seen.  This is obviously some last ditch effort by Whooter to muddy the waters, but it's too late for that now.

Wiggle, wiggle, but you cant get free.......Sorry, ajax13, the Concerned Parent PM has tarnished all the other posts here.  You managed to document here on this thread that survivors are willing to make up lies in an attempt to discredit programs and people who disagree with them.  Unfortunately for you this will always stay with you and be associated with your log-in name.

[Whooter]

Funny.  First TheWho says "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce."  Next he says "Concerned Parent is Ajax13."  Then finally he says Concerned Parent is "Bruce/Ajax13."  Which is it?  One?  Both?  Neither?  The other?  I've seen Whooter get fully owned many, many times, but this time he's more desperate than I've ever seen.  This is obviously some last ditch effort by Whooter to muddy the waters, but it's too late for that now.

Wiggle, wiggle, but you cant get free.......Sorry, ajax13, the Concerned Parent PM has tarnished all the other posts here.  You managed to document here on this thread that survivors are willing to make up lies in an attempt to discredit programs and people who disagree with them.  Unfortunately for you this will always stay with you and be associated with your log-in name.

[Whooter]

Wrong again, Whooter.  If the Concerned Parent PM is made up, it doesn't change the fact that you're John D. Reuben.  You're  a liar and you're involved in a harmful scam via STICC.  It's a proven fact that Aspen kills kids, it's a proven fact that they are the subject of investigations by various authorities, and their facilities have been closed.  You're psychotic Whooter, so you still think that you're reaching some undecided, uninformed audience here, but your only capability is disruption of communication between people who already know what you're about.  The important thing now is to get you fired from Correlsense, hopefully sued by Correlsense and possibly Aspen, and to shut STICC down.  I read the other day Whooter that studies have shown that psychopaths do feel emotions, but they are distracted.  Is that why you come across as being so stupid Whooter?  Are you distracted?

Ajax13, Do you mean shut down the way you did it to AARC?  Oh, wait AARC’s  revenue increased over the past few years  Ha,Ha,Ha or should we call you Concerned Parent?

WTF?!! lol

[Troll Control]

Funny.  First TheWho says "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce."  Next he says "Concerned Parent is Ajax13."  Then finally he says Concerned Parent is "Bruce/Ajax13."  Which is it?  One?  Both?  Neither?  The other?  I've seen Whooter get fully owned many, many times, but this time he's more desperate than I've ever seen.  This is obviously some last ditch effort by Whooter to muddy the waters, but it's too late for that now.

Exactly, but it's an epic failure.  He's just flailing trying to blame others for his own actions again.  He's just making wild accusations with no merit.  Funny that a well documented case by the OP would yield such a weak, factless counter from TheWho.  Usually he just says "Bruce did it!" a few times and wanders off.  But this time you can tell a real nerve was hit because he is just so desperate to throw some stuff to the wall and see what sticks, if anything.  So far...nothing.

[Whooter]

Funny.  First TheWho says "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce."  Next he says "Concerned Parent is Ajax13."  Then finally he says Concerned Parent is "Bruce/Ajax13."  Which is it?  One?  Both?  Neither?  The other?  I've seen Whooter get fully owned many, many times, but this time he's more desperate than I've ever seen.  This is obviously some last ditch effort by Whooter to muddy the waters, but it's too late for that now.

Exactly, but it's an epic failure.  He's just flailing trying to blame others for his own actions again.  He's just making wild accusations with no merit.  Funny that a well documented case by the OP would yield such a weak, factless counter from TheWho.  Usually he just says "Bruce did it!" a few times and wanders off.  But this time you can tell a real nerve was hit because he is just so desperate to throw some stuff to the wall and see what sticks, if anything.  So far...nothing.

Wiggle, Wiggle.. Sorry Ajax13, answering your own posts are not going to set you free from this.  We need to remember the little issue of the forged PM which you tried to blame on TheWho....  Psy is still waiting to get this authorized.  Seeing how much time has passed we can assume you were lying again.  Lets see, lying, pretending to be a program parent, logging in under numerous names, fabricating evidence and now trolling as a guest..... tsk,tsk... isnt this a few of the things you are accusing TheWho of doing?  :eek: lol

[Whooter]

Wrong again, Whooter.  If the Concerned Parent PM is made up, it doesn't change the fact that you're John D. Reuben.  You're  a liar and you're involved in a harmful scam via STICC.  It's a proven fact that Aspen kills kids, it's a proven fact that they are the subject of investigations by various authorities, and their facilities have been closed.  You're psychotic Whooter, so you still think that you're reaching some undecided, uninformed audience here, but your only capability is disruption of communication between people who already know what you're about.  The important thing now is to get you fired from Correlsense, hopefully sued by Correlsense and possibly Aspen, and to shut STICC down.  I read the other day Whooter that studies have shown that psychopaths do feel emotions, but they are distracted.  Is that why you come across as being so stupid Whooter?  Are you distracted?

Ajax13, Do you mean shut down the way you did it to AARC?  Oh, wait AARC’s  revenue increased over the past few years  Ha,Ha,Ha or should we call you Concerned Parent?

WTF?!! lol

I know, a little harsh.  But he has had it coming a long time.  He put a lot of hours in trying to discredit that place and all they did was grow bigger and more successful.  Go figure.

[Anonymous]

Whooter, I've never used the expression "owned" in that context in my life.  Who do you think is going to consider the posts tarnished?  There's just you and the Fornitscators.  You're not providing some sort of counter that informs unitiated prospective program parents.  The threads are all far too convoluted for someone to decipher.  They might as well be written in Sanskrit for anyone not following along.  But if they've been following along, they already know the story, already know you're John D. Reuben, already know about Aspen's quirky client mortality rate, already know about the closures and investigations, and already know about you attempting to exploit the death of your son for your own gain.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think otherwise, Whooter.  Can you possibly think I am concerned about what is associated with my log-in name?  Who in the name of the almighty would I have to be concerned about associating anything with me or my log-in name?  Feel free to put my log-in name above posts claiming to have taken the Lindbergh baby or whatever you choose.  It's meaningless.  
When your criminal record, the info about Aspen and STICC and the Fornits posts you made get to your bosses, do you really think they're going to examine reams of this shit and say, "gosh, I don't know if I can take these Fornits people seriously."
You're all finished Whooter.  Metaphorically speaking, you're a dead man walking.  It's a metaphor because you're only symbolically dead, and nowhere near a man.
By the way Whooter, if AARC's revenue has increased, it'll be awfully hard for them to show damages in their law suits.  Since they are claiming such a loss, it looks like you're lying again.

[Whooter]

Can you possibly think I am concerned about what is associated with my log-in name?  Who in the name of the almighty would I have to be concerned about associating anything with me or my log-in name?  Feel free to put my log-in name above posts claiming to have taken the Lindbergh baby or whatever you choose.  It's meaningless.

Whoa, you went right in and started licking the wound.  I dont think you liked me associating you to this failed attempt to tie TheWho to a fake PM.  I know it hurts, Ajax13, but you should have thought about the consequences before you wrote it and put it out there.  You cant take it back now and it is permenent evidence that posters like yourself are willing to make up stories to discredit any program or person and throws into doubt the validity of each post.  This was your doing not anyone elses.

Can we call you "Program Parent" now?  Are you going to utilize the double standard and get pissed when others use multiple logins, lie and make up PM's?  or give everyone else a pass?

[Whooter]

Off to the side here for a minute...................

By the way Whooter, if AARC's revenue has increased, it'll be awfully hard for them to show damages in their law suits. Since they are claiming such a loss, it looks like you're lying again.

What the hell is that matter with you?.....Wrong again, if, say (for example) AARC projected a 30% increase in revenue each year going forward and they were damaged by libel which resulted in only a 10% increase then they would realize a 20% loss in revenue for that time period.

[Anonymous]

Whooter, you can call me Concerned Parent or whatever you want.  I'm not sure what wound you're talking about, or what consequences.  The only communications on Fornits that concern me are those between me and people who have information that I want, or people who want information that I have.  Beyond that, I don't care what anyone posts here.  Your interest was never in an exchange of information, it was to indulge your perverse penchant for taunting the people who were subjected to the TTI and in making a lame, totally ineffective attempt to cover your ass.  The only information you had that anyone was interested in was your identity, because you're a deviant and people wanted to stop your malicious, freak-show antics.  I will be pleased when you go down in flames simply because you're a degenerate asshole, and every now and again one of you reaps what you've sown, and because your psychotic obsession with me drove you to try to impede the communication between me and the people I wished to communicate with.  AARC is claiming 1.5 million in damages in one suit, and I don't know how much in the others.  If they have suffered such a loss, I don't take credit for it, and if they haven't, then they don't have a court case.  You on the other hand, have a vested interest in deceiving people simply because there will be serious consequences for you in the real world once the truth regarding you, STICC and Aspen is exposed in the real world.  Think about the epistemology here, dummy.

[Whooter]

Whooter, you can call me Concerned Parent or whatever you want.  I'm not sure what wound you're talking about, or what consequences.  The only communications on Fornits that concern me are those between me and people who have information that I want, or people who want information that I have.  Beyond that, I don't care what anyone posts here.  Your interest was never in an exchange of information, it was to indulge your perverse penchant for taunting the people who were subjected to the TTI and in making a lame, totally ineffective attempt to cover your ass.  The only information you had that anyone was interested in was your identity, because you're a deviant and people wanted to stop your malicious, freak-show antics.  I will be pleased when you go down in flames simply because you're a degenerate asshole, and every now and again one of you reaps what you've sown, and because your psychotic obsession with me drove you to try to impede the communication between me and the people I wished to communicate with.  AARC is claiming 1.5 million in damages in one suit, and I don't know how much in the others.  If they have suffered such a loss, I don't take credit for it, and if they haven't, then they don't have a court case.  You on the other hand, have a vested interest in deceiving people simply because there will be serious consequences for you in the real world once the truth regarding you, STICC and Aspen is exposed in the real world.  Think about the epistemology here, dummy.

What do you mean you dont take credit for it?  How could you?  You could not even figure out their studies enough to argue against them.  I had to walk you thru most of it.  You know very well why I am here and why you are so pissed off.  Its because I expose your lies and hold you accountable.  I exposed you it in the AARC thread and again here.  You really think you can make up PM's about people and not be held accountable the the outcome?
I told that if you keep the posts honest then I wont have a problem with you and I wont have a need to hold your feet to the fire.  Your obsession with me is strange to say the least.

Just keep the posts honest.

[Anonymous]

Accountable to whom, Whooter?   I didn't make up that PM, but I would certainly have no problem with someone sending it to Correlsense along with your criminal record and the information about Aspen program deaths and STICC's relationship to ASPEN.  If it makes you feel better to think you outed me, please, feel free.  For all I know, you posted it yourself.  I was hopeful that it was genuine, since it would crush you once it's presented to the appropriate people, but if it was fake, it doesn't detract one iota from the mountain of evidence of malfeasance on your part.  You can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that anything you post is relevant to me only insofar as you used the mechanics of the forum to interfere with me communicating with folks who wished to communicate with me and with whom I wished to communicate, and to the extent that you're a disgusting liar who pissed me off.  You can't keep me honest or dishonest, Whooter.  There isn't much left for me to get out of Fornits.  AARC's fate is going to be decided by the people who provide it's funding.  I collected information related to AARC and put in my posts.  How that information is used by those who read the posts is way beyond my control.  But for you Whooter, the interesting times are about to begin.

[Whooter]

Accountable to whom, Whooter? I didn't make up that PM, but I would certainly have no problem with someone sending it to Correlsense along with your criminal record and the information about Aspen program deaths and STICC's relationship to ASPEN.

Believe me no one is going to send that information out to someones company.  I think you know this also.  First of all we have established it to be false information and their email address would trace it back to them for a lawsuit.  There was plenty of opportunity to easily validate the information, but like any other false accusations when it comes time to put it on the table they run because they could be sued.
Secondly even Psy couldn’t see where you had any evidence connecting me to this Reuben guy and offered his help to validate the info but no one took him up on his offer because no one wanted the truth.  Its just not there,Ajax13 .  Pick your strongest piece of evidence and I will show you that it is all in your mind.
But aside from all that the main thing is that you believe it and you are enjoying yourself.  None of us would be here if we didn’t enjoy it.

If it makes you feel better to think you outed me, please, feel free. For all I know, you posted it yourself. I was hopeful that it was genuine, since it would crush you once it's presented to the appropriate people, but if it was fake, it doesn't detract one iota from the mountain of evidence of malfeasance on your part.

That is one of your problems is that you “hope” the evidence is genuine, but as we have seen throughout this thread you have nothing.  This hope you have overrides any logic that may be placed in front of you.

You can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that anything you post is relevant to me only insofar as you used the mechanics of the forum to interfere with me communicating with folks who wished to communicate with me and with whom I wished to communicate, and to the extent that you're a disgusting liar who pissed me off.

I think we have established who the liar is.  If you had been truthful over in the AARC thread our posts would have never met.  You brought this on yourself.

You can't keep me honest or dishonest, Whooter.

Well in a way I can.  I can alert the readers to your lies and thereby neutralize them, which was highly successful in the past.

There isn't much left for me to get out of Fornits. AARC's fate is going to be decided by the people who provide it's funding. I collected information related to AARC and put in my posts. How that information is used by those who read the posts is way beyond my control.

All non-profit businesses are controlled by their funding.

But for you Whooter, the interesting times are about to begin.

Actually my interesting times wont pick up until late spring 2010.  We are going to have a fairly quiet winter this year.

[Troll Control]

This is hilarious.  TheWho is now trying to steamroll Ajax13 as being "Concerned Parent," which he is not.  Before he was trying to pin his troubles on RobertBruce, who is also not "Concerned Parent."  

The truth is this thread was started to highlight TheWho's lies, which was done very well.  He denied vehemently, and then copped, when forced, to two huge lies, but he's still denying the third fact.  No matter.  The thrust of this thread was to show TheWho lies all the time, about everything.  By accusing RobertBruce and Ajax13 of being his tormentor in this thread, he only proves the point he's railing against: TheWho is willing to lie to discredit the truth.  He's lying about Ajax13 and lying about RobertBruce, in addition to the other two huge, proven lies in this thread alone.  

The damage is done.  TheWho's credibility has been gone for a long time, but the difference now is that even the casual peruser of these threads also knows right away that they can't trust what he says, which, of course, cripples his ability to refer to Aspen.  And on top of that, Aspen has taken a serious digger this year, shutting down several facilities under well-publicized killings, abuse and neglect of children.  An ebbing tide sinks all boats.  

Whooter just doesn't realize his whole game has been scuttled and is flailing away trying to get the dogs off the scent.  The perfect storm has consumed him personally and professionally and Fornits has become his Waterloo.  Now he's like Golem roaming middle earth chasing the unattainable, which is his case, is credibility.  He has none and never will have any again.

[Whooter]

This is hilarious.  TheWho is now trying to steamroll Ajax13 as being "Concerned Parent," which he is not.  Before he was trying to pin his troubles on RobertBruce, who is also not "Concerned Parent."  

The truth is this thread was started to highlight TheWho's lies, which was done very well.  He denied vehemently, and then copped, when forced, to two huge lies, but he's still denying the third fact.  No matter.  The thrust of this thread was to show TheWho lies all the time, about everything.  By accusing RobertBruce and Ajax13 of being his tormentor in this thread, he only proves the point he's railing against: TheWho is willing to lie to discredit the truth.  He's lying about Ajax13 and lying about RobertBruce, in addition to the other two huge, proven lies in this thread alone.  

The damage is done.  TheWho's credibility has been gone for a long time, but the difference now is that even the casual peruser of these threads also knows right away that they can't trust what he says, which, of course, cripples his ability to refer to Aspen.  And on top of that, Aspen has taken a serious digger this year, shutting down several facilities under well-publicized killings, abuse and neglect of children.  An ebbing tide sinks all boats.  

Whooter just doesn't realize his whole game has been scuttled and is flailing away trying to get the dogs off the scent.  The perfect storm has consumed him personally and professionally and Fornits has become his Waterloo.  Now he's like Golem roaming middle earth chasing the unattainable, which is his case, is credibility.  He has none and never will have any again.

A little long winded just to say you have nothing. So far you have failed to document any lies or make any connections between TheWho and this Reuben guy.  Thewho  has called you on your PM which you ran away from.  The famous background check that you once touted has been dropped and now all you have is that there was a TTI meeting in Chicago November of 2006 and TheWho said he was there in January 2007  (close but no cigar) and you never were able to place Reuben there at all!
I wish I could be there when Reuben gets this famous email people keep saying they are going to send.
I'll keep checking back but as Psy said you havent proved anything yet.