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Offline anon

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« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2003, 03:56:00 PM »
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« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2003, 04:28:00 PM »
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On 2003-09-27 12:56:00, KarenZ wrote:

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Sometimes I get the impression from reading posts on Lon's board that there is an underground network of parents who are successfully pitching non-WWASPS programs ... to their own financial gain. Am I wrong?





I honestly do not know. Have you asked Lon or maybe Jena? I'd think they'd be much more in tune to this than anyone on Fornits.

I have never seen anything like this myslef, but I don't use Lon's board much. Just now and then.



Same anon says:

It's too bad you were booted off the parents support board for expressing your opinion



Actually, what I got the boot from the BBS for, was stating a fact. A couple facts - and then maybe worst of all - asking a question no one wanted to answer. "What chance does a Cathiolic family rep have of ever working up to being a  Director? "

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Good for you, Karen, at least you tried to engage those folks in some sort of meaningful dialogue before they pulled the plug on you.   Good question about the catholic family rep but could you elaborate a bit as I'm not sure what you mean "working up to being a Director"?
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« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2003, 05:03:00 PM »
Uhhh....what chance does ANY family rep have to being promoted to director? Family Reps don't become directors. Directors come from within WWASP's innermost shell. For example, Cameron and Chaffin Pullan have been SCLA directors since the program opened in 1998. Usually the only promotion within the facility is family parents to family reps...and that's once in a great while. The rest of the staff comes and goes without much notice.
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« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2003, 06:50:00 PM »
I don't think that the Mormon thing is necessarily true. They don't hire based on religion. They don't promote staff based on religion. But, they are founded on the principles of the Mormon religion, and they govern parts of their program according to the Mormon religion. And that, is most certainly enough for me. Promotion of staff in the programs is based on to what degree they promote the program to the "students."  I think the Catholic thing is irrelevant, as far as the directors go at least. Everyone knows that the "big boys" at WWASP, back in UTAH are Mormon though, but onsite at each facility it's questionable. The type of people you're looking at, the staff on the facility, are those willing to do ANYTHING for a buck.
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« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2003, 08:21:00 PM »
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« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2003, 07:59:00 PM »
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I was told a student with a profile and history like my son's could expect to graduate within 6 months.  



Karen, didn't you have to sign a one year contract? If so, how would you figure that your son would be allowed to graduate in 6 months? The contract that my ex had to sign was for a year. He had to promise to pay the program at the very least, that length of time. It did not mention in the contract that if they graduated in less time, that he would be released from his payment thereof. To me, that is the program saying they will be there at least a year.


Karen, did you have to sign a one year contract?  If you did, why did you assume that Nathan would graduate in six months?

By the way, I am not saying you or Nathan lied about anything.  I am not calling either of you a liar.  I am just trying to understand why or how come you have become so confused about everything you speak about. I am trying to understand why there are so many inconsistancies in your telling of your turn of events.
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« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2003, 08:44:00 PM »
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« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2003, 09:29:00 PM »
StrugglingTeens/Lon/Jena = AGENDA

Lon gets paid to plug WWASP schools and other abusive teen treatment centers. I think Lon should be taken to court for his roll in referring teens to such centers.

I only check that board about once every other month. Its always the same few promoting certain programs in the name of ca$h.
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« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2003, 09:40:00 PM »
Yes, it is always the same group of parents (plus a few newbies) carrying on a discussion and essentially supporting one another ad nauseum.  The thread about self-medicating started by Jena, I believe, led to some interesting disclosures from other parents, who all seemed to be on one kind of drug or another to help them cope with sending their kids away.  Pretty sad commentary, don't you think?

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« Reply #69 on: September 29, 2003, 09:59:00 AM »
About the ST board.

It is worth keeping an eye on  an posting now an then, because of the high percentage of wwasp parents who use it.You can never tell when something might get their attention and start them thinking for themselves.Its annoying how careful you have to be in how you express things, as Lon and Jena are very protective of wwasp. Lon can't claim he don't know because so many have told him. Maybe he will be held libel at some point.
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« Reply #70 on: September 29, 2003, 10:15:00 AM »
Karen,  

Did you sign a 12 month contract? Yes or No?
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« Reply #71 on: September 29, 2003, 11:21:00 AM »
taking your advice Carey and advise others to do the same...skip reading posts with Carey's name by them!

they are not adding anything new to the fight just rehashing and attempts to make a lonely sorry woman feel somehow better about herself...sometimes there isn't enough to make people feel better and their need is so great that they make others fell bad to climb up?

sorry you're now her target Karen. I appreciate the ways that you are working to bring new exposure and information to this subject.

Carey has avoided answering the question about what she is doing to help kids except post here?

If she can/does answer that question - I will read her response.
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« Reply #72 on: September 29, 2003, 12:23:00 PM »
Anon, the difference between me and you and Karen and a lot of others who are associated with PURE is that I am after the truth in everything.  You are all about bashing anyone and everyone who does not submit to your ways of doing things.

If you think you are helping kids by making accusations and by bashing others, you are wrong.

Sorry, I don't lie and make things up as you and Karen and all of the rest of your gang does.  You see I back up what I say with proof.  All you do is make accusations.  

Karen can't answer the question because it shows how ridiculous she is and it shows how she has been manipulated by PURE.   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And Anon, YOU ARE  A COWARD! How really sad it is that you can post as ANON with statments that are so bold (ha ha) and yet you are afraid to reveal your identity.  It just shows how cowardly you are, afraid to stand behind what you say.  How sad and pathetic you must be to have no confindence in yourself.

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« Reply #73 on: September 29, 2003, 12:56:00 PM »
Anon, as I am anon, so what. Ditto you, IGNORE Carey!

Karen, I don't know you, but you owe that wench NOTHING. Now I am writing, giving Carey more power, but lets all ignore this f-king idiot. As another anon said, things were so productive without her and her obsessions and so called truths.  Carey, find another avenue to fill your day, you are not wanted here. Oh, except by the enemy. They would miss you. Hell, stay here cause you know you will just to annoy the shit out of us. I see the way you always need to bring up your threads, obviously everyone trys to ignore you, but you bring it back until someone strokes you. Go back take care of your kids. I knwo this will only piss you off more, but who cares, you are a dumbass.
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« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2003, 01:07:00 PM »
So Karen, did you sign a one year contract?  Yes or no?  

Hey, maybe you should hurry and go back and pull your letter from Sue's site, like Ryan did.  Or maybe you can just go back and change your statement about your experience, like Ryan has.  

Hurry, Hurry.  Oh and you might try posting Anon from now on just like the rest of the cowards associated with PURE do so that next time the reality of what you are all about can be kept a secret just like theirs is.

Sad you people think you can stand up for something that you are not willing to put your neck out for.  There has gotta be a reason...like half truths or no truth at all...or maybe just the fact that you are so badly associated with a certain individual that you know that once that is known others will have doubts about your intenttions too.


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