idea, inspired by over the gw. the grassroots effort thread.

[3xsaSeedling]

Shut the fuck up Who. Nobody on this forum believes what you spout anyway.

Real advice, but not your only option:

Don't let the fucking kid be found. Let him pick another name. Completely alter his identity. If you have the resources to get fake ID use them, but don't rely on it. Ideally no one should be even asking who he is.

He shouldn't contact his parents, or anyone else, until well after he's 18 and lives far from you. If his family thinks he's dead so much the better.

Hiding someone properly, especially a teenager, while letting them have a semblance of a normal life takes panache and skill.

I would only recommend this if your life is already in danger.

And fact is, most of theWho's post info is accurate ops:...
this time

Guest wrote:

...remember, steven tyler legally got custody of an underage girl he had a sexual relationship with.

okay.  I'm dense.  WTF is that about?!

[Anonymous]

This information tells you only about how to be declared emancipated by a judge.  If you want to be declared emancipated by a judge, you must convince the judge that you meet ALL of the following requirements:

You are at least 14 years old.
You willingly want to live separate and apart from your parents with the consent or acquiescence of your parents. (Your parents do not object to you living apart from them.) You can manage your own finances.
You have a source of income that does not come from any illegal activity.
Emancipation would not be contrary to your best interests; it is good for you.

Requirements for Legal Emancipation.
Who pays the attorney and legal fees?
Parental involvment/consent is still required.
A Judge must rule emancipation is in the child's "best interest."

[Anonymous]

This forum is about reality, Who; get the fuck out.

This is actually a matter of philosophy, making me think that perhaps Who's only point is to play the fool in a Platonian dialogue.

"Well, they might have tried to send me away then, but my parents will want me back now, right?", a teen may ask.

Wrong! They might or might not send you away again. You cannot trust your parents at all, even after you are able to legally tell them to go fuck themselves. The only time you will be able to truly trust them is posthumously. From this point on everything is warfare. If they have any clue of your location they will use it against you. Best not to talk to them at all. Faking your own suicide is an option but hard to pull off properly. A way to do this right is to take a boat over a large body of water, state (on a cellphone you can afford to lose) that you've tied a concrete block to yourself, and then actually jump into the water for the correct-sounding splash. Leave phone in water, get back in boat, laugh. Tossing in concrete blocks tied to shoes will give the cops something to find.

Making your way to other relatives might work but make sure you actually trust them to hide you properly.

[Anonymous]

The only time you will be able to truly trust them is posthumously

HUH?

[Anonymous]

Don't have the kid call home. They need to disappear until they turn 18.

[Che Gookin]

Don't have the kid call home. They need to disappear until they turn 18.

Well.. my thinking on it is give the kid the option. Though if he or she does want to call home they can do it from a pay phone. No way I'd want that call being traced back to my house.

[Anonymous]

But you'd be just fine with it traced back to your city or state?

:roll:

[Che Gookin]

I'm not the one being traced now am I?

That is a risk the kid will have to take. Mind you I'd suggest they make the call with a calling card as the pay phone would call the calling card company first and then the calling card company would call the parents house. Hence making it all the more difficult to trace.

I still wouldn't let the kid call home from my place though.

[Anonymous]

what if someone just flat-out refused the strip-search and physical at intake?

[Che Gookin]

I'm not sure what would happen. Depends on the facility I guess. I'd venture to say some would search the youth by force and others would just wait him or her out.

It all depends on the programme.

[Anonymous]

what if someone just flat-out refused the strip-search and physical at intake?

at lockdowns, they just restrain you and force you.

at lower-level, "hands off" programs, like HLA, they just send you to wilderness (rci in hla's case), where they can hold you down and force you. and if you resist at a place like r.c.i, they "look the other way", while a staff whips you into submission. and if you still dont submit, they tell your parents that you are "totally out of control and a danger to himself and others", after which your parents are likely to send you to an even worse place like 3springs, P.V, some kids even got reccomended to be transferred to T.B or casa by the sea, where they ended up staying waaaay past their 18th birthday.

[Che Gookin]

At 3 springs we told the kids HLA was the worst place to be.

Again some I will do it by force, others will wait you out and treat it as a simple refusal.

[Anonymous]

what if you told the physician or whoever it is who does the routine physical that you were raped by the staffer who did the strip search (even if isn't true) - they'd be a mandatory reporter - once the cops are there you could make stuff up (or tell true stories) about your parents abusing you and by law they'd hafta investigate - could that stall the placement?

[Anonymous]

At 3 springs we told the kids HLA was the worst place to be.

LOL at HLA they told us 3 springs was the worst place to be inside mainland u.s.a save prison.


this shows alot about how programs are run, eh?

[TheWho]

what if you told the physician or whoever it is who does the routine physical that you were raped by the staffer who did the strip search (even if isn't true) - they'd be a mandatory reporter - once the cops are there you could make stuff up (or tell true stories) about your parents abusing you and by law they'd hafta investigate - could that stall the placement?

I wouldn’t encourage kids doing this anymore than they presently are.  This is already a big problem at some of these schools.  Kids that do this are doing a huge disservice to the kids who have been raped or are really sick.  Each time there is a false report or false alarm the response time gets slower and slower and the reports less and less credible, its just human nature.  Imagine if every child in your local high school claimed they were being abused by a particular teacher and it turns out that each time it is because they want to get out of doing their homework or detention.  After a handful of these reports turning up false if a child was abused they would have a hard time getting someone to believe them.