Hi, Robert-the-Bruce, it's Sybil. Name calling again huh? Come on, you continue to prove my point that when the heat is on, you and your buddies can't help but start calling people names you hope will get under their skin. I'll accept this as a compliment. Thanks!
Not at all, I thought I'd made this clear and apologize for any confusion. I call you Sybil because youve posted under so many user names here it appears as if you suffer from MPD. That being the case I thought Sybil would be apropo. Unless of course youve not read the book? I believe there's a movie version of it as well with Sally Field. I considered using Tyler Durden, but Sybil seemed more fitting.
Thanks for the drama! It really made my day much more entertaining. Passive voice sounds so much more dramatic. Threading big words out of the thesaurus in run-on sentences causes me to quake to the bone. Add your bath robe and you're ready to act out a scene from Lord of the Rings. Hazaaa! Excelsior!!
So you talked with your co workers and verified the bathrobe thing then? Super. It amazes me that even with all the financial woes hla is suffering from they can still devote so much resources to spying on people apparently unrelated to this issue and making threatening phone calls in the middle of the night.
I'm unclear on the link to your lapdog comment. The link was to a page of your posts. I don't understand how quoting yourself adds more credibility. Quantity doesn't mean credibility. I have said several times you spin things with half-truths. I've got to hand it to you. You fool a lot of people into thinking you're actually advocating for others. In reality, you're just advocating for yourself. If pro-HLA people misrepresented themselves on the site, I don't support this. I can understand it since they don't want to be bullied, but I don't support it.
Oh no Sybil you misunderstood. See those arent posts of me quoting myself, its me quoting hla staff members. People who were posting from the hla server either trying to abuse other posters or fishing for information. On occasion they pretended to be students in order to try and earn our trust. Dont take my word for it though, ask your coworkers.
Please re-read pg.15 of the court's decision more closely. Much more closely. Just referencing the number of times "unjust enrichment" is stated doesn't mean the statement is true. Once again, quantity doesn't mean credibility. In fact, he's denying the unjust enrichment claim the plaintiff's argued. He is also very critical of the plaintiff's tactics. They apparently also believe quantity gives credibility since they "forced [the court] to sift through all 126 paragraphs of the complaint to determine whether plaintiffs have set forth any facts to support their unjust enrichment claim against..." You didn't post the latter portion of that section either. Once again using half-truths. He went on to say the plaintiff's can argue this, but they will have a very difficult time proving this in court. Thanks for posting it so others can see what I mean. He is denying the unjust enrichment claim the plaintiff's argued.
So youre basing your belife that the class status will be dismissed soley on the few paragraphs on page 15? Gotta clutch at any straw availible huh?
You know very well the class-action status is going to be denied and you'll only be left with conspiracy theories of how HLA paid off a federal judge or manipulated his mind with "Peer Group Power!" And that which is then shall forever be!!! Ummm...Sorry, I was channeling your mind for a brief second. The dramatics ARE kind of fun.
Neither one of us
knows how the judge is going to rule. What we do know is that if he does deny the class status then the only real consequence will be you all spending alot more time in the court room. That and writting alot of letters begging these parents to settle. I'll leave the conspiracy theories to your boss, he seems to enjoy finding enemies everywhere.
Anyway, I'm not sure on the numbers, but I'm sure they're lower. Once again, you're assuming this is a sign of wrong-doing.
Well its certainlly not a sign of right-doing now is it? Perhaps its time you all accepted some respondsibility and stopped trying to blame all your problems on others, namely us.
Come on, it's unfortunately the reality that the belief of "innocent until proven guilty" is only found in the courtroom. In the real world, people operate off of "guilty until proven innocent." I'm really not that concerned. As soon as the judge denies the class-action status, business will definitely pick up.
Definitely? Well consider that Nicole's faux paus is still floating around out there, the school's reputation has been destroyed, the plantiffs arent going away no matter what, and the school is broke and cant get any new loans. Things have looked better Sybil.
On applying for exemption, I don't think there is anyone out there that embraces government coming to your door. I hate paying taxes. ABSOLUTELY HATE IT!! However, I do it, but I also make sure I'm not giving them more than they're asking. If you didn't have to pay taxes for 13 years due to filing under "tax exempt" and then the IRS decides you make too much money and now have to pay taxes, you're going to try and find a legal way to avoid having to pay these taxes. It doesn't mean you're guilty of tax evasion. The government determined HLA qualified for exemption for 13 years. They asked all the same questions, did the same investigation, and still determined HLA qualified for exemption.
Then what changed? HLA claimed for 13 years their primary purpose was on education, and not therapy. They advertised quite differently. If youre stating that ORS did the same investigation every year (they didnt) then what suddenly changed? I mean how does a school go from after 13 years of claiming to the state that they are a bona fide boarding school where the primary purpose was on education, and no service planning or casework services being provided, to suddenly something else entirely? What changed?
As far as restrictions, that's going to be a pointless road of a topic to go down. It'll just turn into a "yes they did - no they di'in't" (head swivel while wagging a finger) situation. You obviously believe abuse happened on restriction. I don't.
Yeah...the thing is I was on restrictions, I was abused. You weren't. Therefore my testimony bears more weight than yours. Sorry. :-?
That's not just something I believe, that's what the government (CPS) believes or they would have found evidence of this.
Then prove it, provide the reports showing that. As much as you mention them youre apparently intimately familiar with the things. So show them.
My friend at DHR told me chopping wood is completely allowed. Feel free to call them about this if you doubt it.
I have, and it isnt. At least it wont be when that new licenses kicks in.
I chopped wood when I was young as well. 13 years without a finding of abuse. Oh wait! That's right. HLA bought off CPS, or better yet, HLA has supernatural or clandestine powers and abilities to foil the investigators. If you know of a positive finding of abuse by CPS, I'll await your reference to that report. We'll see how long that takes. I'll be sure to keep track of the days (today is day one), so you better start cracking!
Well it looks like you have more in common with Who then we thought. Do a little quick back reading and see if you can find out how many times I claimed CPS had gone into HLA and found kids being abused, or even not being abused. Or better yet I'll save you some time. I've never mentioned it . In fact the only time I know of that there was any sort of on campus investigation by a CPS type department was when DEFACS came in some months back. Even with that I have no clue what the outcome of the investigation was, nor what the original complaint was about. You on the other hand have claimed multiple times now that CPS has come in on more than one occasion and never found a single case of kids being abused. I'm eager to see if you can back that up. I had no idea that CPS had been called in so many times. This should raise some red flags and I look forward to you providing those reports you seem to know so much about. We'll see how long that takes. I'll be sure to keep track of the days (today is day one), so you better start cracking!
Okay, so you probably saw two rather than one.
Several more but that's okay. The number itself is inconsequential.
I have no doubt you probably saw some of these things. However, you state it in a way to give the impression this is the norm.
It was in the graduations I attended.
You know very well it isn't.
So says you.
Most of the kids choose to get better, some don't.
Then why isnt there any sort of independent evidence proving this claim. Come on you guys have had 13 years. What's the hold up? Tell me something else to; What about the kids that didnt have anything wrong with them to begin with?
That doesn't mean HLA is a bad place. It simply means they chose to use the tools HLA offered to benefit their lives.
Which tools? The axes we used to chop wood for the staff, or the tooth brushes we used to clean the dumpsters?
You would have seen this if you would have graduated.
My life is a great deal better for having not stayed in that shit pit a minute longer than I had to. I am by no means alone in this thought either.
If you saw the student that spit in the face of their counselor as a negative, why do you spit on people verbally on this website?
Who said I saw it as a negative?
What counselor was that by the way? I'd like to look them up and call them to find out if it's true or just another dramatic statement
It's true. I'll tell you the persons name just as soon as you can provide the reports from CPS. Quid pro quo and all, hurry up the clock is ticking.
I saw some kids that had a very half-hearted graduation speech, but overwhelming majority of them and their parents talked about how they found hope when they thought it was gone. Kids that didn't think they would get into college were accepted. I remember what it's like to get an acceptance letter. You feel like your on cloud 9. Didn't you feel the same way when a college sent you an acceptance letter? It's still great to hear someone say they would have died if they hadn't gone to HLA.
I'm sure its not as many as hear from you all "Without HLA youll soon be dead or in jail." Of course most of us who broke out early are neither dead nor in jail so it really is great to reflect back on that and laugh at our counselors stupidity.
Make sure you give your wife a big hug and foot rub. Supporting a husband is a tough job. Let's see. Where is that witty emoticon? Oh here it is. I really prefer this one though courtesy of Deborah
My wife and I actually both work, but I'll give her a big hug anyway, just to show her I care. :wink: