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« Reply #105 on: December 15, 2005, 04:04:00 PM »
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"Then we will just get into the same old argument of whether or not HLA is a RTC or a Therapeutic Boarding School.  It just depends on how you interpret it.  SACS chose to accredit HLA as a traditional boarding school.  That was a reccomendation from the SACS committee after inspecting HLA.  HLA does not seek JCAHO accredidation because it does not see itself as an RTC."


This still does not explain why HLA tells ORS they are a traditional boarding school, yet advertise as a theraputic one. Also we are still waiting for that link to the SOS office.
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« Reply #106 on: December 15, 2005, 05:53:00 PM »
Ginger I wasnt talking about whether or not you have an agreement with HLA. I wasn't talking about whether or not this is a matter of public record. I was questioning your lack of judgement on posting Marla's last name and attorney's name on a public message board. She should have given you explicit permission to post them, otherwise, I think it was in poor taste.
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« Reply #107 on: December 15, 2005, 06:47:00 PM »
I suppose it depends on one's sensibilities. I find bullying to be in exremely poor taste.

And it was not I who put Marla's name in the public record in such context. That would be your friends. Anyone with an interest could look it up, and probably has already.  

Like I said, bullies really are averse to the light. And they'll do and say damned near anything to deflect blame and attention when they get busted. BTW, did you ever get RB's explicit permission to toss his name around?

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« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2005, 06:56:00 PM »
According to RB nobody knows his name.
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« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2005, 07:34:00 PM »
Wow, here's some more interesting public info.

http://www.whois.sc/quirklaw.com

Ya' know, I was only half kidding about the other Mr. Farrell
http://www.nospank.net/n-o35r.htm

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« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2005, 08:23:00 PM »
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"According to RB nobody knows his name. "


not true at all. The people who matter know what it is.
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« Reply #111 on: December 15, 2005, 10:40:00 PM »
If he is unknown to posters on this board how could his name be tossed around?
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« Reply #112 on: December 15, 2005, 11:49:00 PM »
They might snow the state, which wouldn't be a monumental feat, but no one here is under any illusion that they aren't an RTC as defined by Ga ORS.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#97854

Are you willing to state publicly that HLAs PRIMARY PURPOSE is education?

http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/nat ... iller.html
Excerpts from
NATSAP's plea to Congressman George Miller
Re: Legislation to Curb Child Abuse in Residential Treatment Programs

We appreciate the intent of the introduction of this legislation, but are concerned the excellent work being done by a large number of residential treatment programs [RTC] will be impacted negatively if their interests are not considered.

which devote themselves to society's need for the effective care and education of struggling young people.

Since NATSAP programs are located throughout the country and serve primarily private paying families, they [all?] fall under DIVERSE LICENSURE LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

In addition to membership in NATSAP, the majority [now, the 'majority'] of our members are licensed
or accredited either by a state licensing board or by a national or regional accrediting agency.

NATSAP programs, however, have legitimate concern that it would be very dangerous for either the federal or any state government to create prescriptive regulations without input and representation from our member programs. For example, our organization is quite concerned about your proposed legislation in SECTION. 303. Eligibility (b) (3) that states "In the case of each child who is a resident of the facility and whose domicile is another State, the facility meets the standards of such other State for the operation of such a facility, including any licensing standards". Given the vast array of administrative rules in different states such a clause would create an unreasonable administrative nightmare, and in effect allow the most restrictive rules in all states to dictate treatment standards for every state. [And that would be a bad thing? Sounds like it could be in the kids best interest] We urge you to omit SECTION 303 (b) (3), and furthermore ask that you meet with representatives from our organization to discuss a variety of issues with your proposed legislation.

In the private pay market, parents retain the ultimate control to authorize, pay for, and select the type of TREATMENT they feel most appropriate for their child. [Sounds like RTC. Otherwise, treatment would read EDUCATION]

We support an approach that does not suppress the diversity of legitimate methods in our profession and yet protects the interest and concerns of parents and children enrolled in our programs.

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State/Federal oversight is like the black plague to programs. Why?
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« Reply #113 on: December 16, 2005, 12:03:00 AM »
If he is unknown to posters on this board how could his name be tossed around?

did you miss the whole rb/susie thing? susie announces she knew- threw out a name, anonymously. confronted. denies. lie exposed. never copped. major drama.  :roll:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =70#140698
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« Reply #114 on: December 16, 2005, 12:24:00 AM »
Are we behind the times.

Susie the Bullfrog claimed last summer she knew who I was, yet could not offer anything in the way of evidence to support that claim.

Later on she claimed anonymously she again knew who I was and this time dropped an incorrect name. She then went on to state when this student was at HLA and for how long.

It was obvious it was her despite her lurking in the shadows out of fear. Eventually we ran her IP and proved it was her. To this she simply stated she had done nothing wrong by revealing information about a former student, information she gained from his file as a former employee. She then claimed she knew the student in question and knew we had similar personalities. Except I and another poster in fact know the said student and convinced him to appear on here calling Susie out on her actions and stating that in fact they never knew each other. Thus the question remains to the Bullfrog as to where she got her information from. She has yet to answer the question regarding her stating that he and I had similar personalities since it was shown she never knew the student she named. She continues to claim she is innocent and that she has done nothing wrong in revealing classified information. She states she guessed at all the information she was privy to thus it is not illegal.

Susie is an idiot.

She has no clue who I am, and is fast reaching the mental state where she will not even know who she is.

Watch shes going to come on huffing and puffing shortly.

"Robert you can say whatever you want I did nothing illegal. All I did was release classified information gained from a students file. Not a big deal. I guessed at the number of months (magically the correct ones) LOL I have TWO disabled family members to take care of. "
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« Reply #115 on: December 16, 2005, 09:44:00 AM »
It is my understanding that "Quirk and Quirk"
and Marla's attorney came to an 'agreement'
during settlement to have Marla personally remove her letter. Judge Stone is in Superior
court in Georgia... The agreement and order
pertain only to Marla...In the order it clearly
states that 'Amazing Forums' and now 'this' forum
are not in agreement..They have no jurisdiction
out of the state of Georgia.  The letter did not
have to be removed if this site is out of state..
Pennsylvania?? 'Quirk and Quirk' are apparently
positioning for further info...It is incredible
that this Topic "Where is Marla?" was started on
the 28th of November and on the 29th "QUIRK AND
QUIRK" FIRED OFF A LETTER...  If this site is
out of state, they are out of line....
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« Reply #116 on: December 16, 2005, 10:29:00 AM »
Very true. It also proves us right and stooges like Mrs. Gray and Aften wrong. If HLA doesnt care or pay attention to what we write on here how did they have a court order crying about it within 24 hours?
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« Reply #117 on: December 16, 2005, 08:02:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-16 06:44:00, Juniper1 wrote:

"It is my understanding that "Quirk and Quirk"

and Marla's attorney came to an 'agreement'

during settlement to have Marla personally remove her letter. Judge Stone is in Superior

court in Georgia... The agreement and order

pertain only to Marla...In the order it clearly

states that 'Amazing Forums' and now 'this' forum

are not in agreement..They have no jurisdiction

out of the state of Georgia.  The letter did not

have to be removed if this site is out of state..

Pennsylvania?? 'Quirk and Quirk' are apparently

positioning for further info...It is incredible

that this Topic "Where is Marla?" was started on

the 28th of November and on the 29th "QUIRK AND

QUIRK" FIRED OFF A LETTER...  If this site is

out of state, they are out of line....

"


So what? Amazing Forums is hosted out of San Antonio, Texas. It's not that Judge Stone's order is binding on me. I know it's not. I took it as a threat to sue me at home, using Judge Stone's decision as a basis. Judges nearly always uphold the decisions of other judges. Professional courtesey, ya know. And so it would just be a damned expensive ride to the same end, only likely w/ a gag order of my own by the end of it.

Doesn't matter anyway. I bet there are copies of that very same letter floating around Cyberia.

It's like the proverbial hole in the dyke. And Joe, if your mad about my having posted your letter, just count your blessings. They don't tell you this part of the nursery story. But, at the end of the day, the little dutch boy wound up in traction.  :rofl:


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« Reply #118 on: December 16, 2005, 08:11:00 PM »
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"Very true. It also proves us right and stooges like Mrs. Gray and Aften wrong. If HLA doesnt care or pay attention to what we write on here how did they have a court order crying about it within 24 hours?"


No, no. The court order goes back to August 15th and only applies to a posting on Amazing Forums. Get this. When they first started pursuing that, they just assumed that I hosted that forum too. I wonder where they got that idea? Isn't that fairly similar to the program supporters mantra about only a few crack pot critics among a massive horde of happy graduates?

So, anyway, they got the order, which is a consent decree. So that means, consensual or not, Marla agreed to have her letter taken down. And so it would likely go in the Commonwealth if they pressed it here. From a jabberwock perspective, that's fair and right.

However, the posting her in this thread was mid day on the 28th of November. The letter was dated the very next day. Yup, I'd say they sure as hell are hunkering on this site. Either that or Sue's got one of them thar red phones on her desk to alert the masters at the first sign of actionable material.

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« Reply #119 on: December 16, 2005, 08:21:00 PM »
Oh no no no. She hasnt spoken to ANY of them since December of 2000. Whats the matter with you Ginger, Mrs. Gray has always been so honest and forthright with us, being respectful and listening to others. Never ever lying or refusing to answer questions on topics she brought up.

We should have a bit more courtesy towards her.

Oh wait nevermind.

Susie Gray is the one who works directly for Buch as one of his many stooges.
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