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« Reply #90 on: December 05, 2005, 07:37:00 AM »
How do you know all this? Did Marla herself tell you? Or did you just hear from someone else about what happened to Marla?
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« Reply #91 on: December 05, 2005, 08:51:00 AM »
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On 2005-12-05 04:37:00, Anonymous wrote:

"How do you know all this? Did Marla herself tell you? Or did you just hear from someone else about what happened to Marla? "


You seem so interested. Why is that?
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« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2005, 01:20:00 PM »
Posted by a physician in another thread...

"My experience with Hidden Lake Academy was also distressing.

In my opinion, and the opinions of the six other physicians in my practice who followed my HLA misadventure with me, HLA is a predator whose prey is the horrified parents of disturbed teens. It is an institution of opportunity, bringing home its bottom line at the expense of the desperate, frazzled families it exploits.

By the time most parents are introduced to HLA, they've already been through a costly and demoralizing gauntlet of police stations, court appearances, counselor visits, psychiatric evaluations...even hospital visits.

To say they are desperate is an understatement. They are trying to keep their families from self-destructing. In most cases, the only option is turning the child out onto the streets: most insurance policies won't cover mental health care, and even if a family is lucky enough to have good coverage, it is limited to short, individual events. Deeply needed inpatient care is rarely an option for most of these families.

So even considering a modality such as a therapeutic boarding school is a true extravagance. Actually sending the student may mean mortgaging a home, selling it, or even bancruptcy.

Enter Hidden Lake and its ilk.

I was asked by the parents of a young teen to evaluate HLA by its Web site. What stood out to me even more than the philosophy that medical therapy was discouraged were the many typographical errors and careless mistakes on nearly every page of the site. While my own writing is not perfect, I am not registered as a boarding school, responsible for the education of children, presumably overflowing with teachers more than capable of proofreading the very materials provided to the public for the purpose of attracting business.

When I brought my concerns to the attention to the school, they were received with, well, less than warm gratitude. My comments to HLA were meant to be constructive. I was gracious and self-effacing in my original letter because the last thing I wanted was to offend the school. Clearly such niceties were a waste of effort.

Given that the parents are expected to pay upwards of seven thousand dollars per month for the privilege of sending their child to a therapeutic boarding school, I actually expected a minimum of civility. None was evident.

My credentials were questioned?this from an institution whose methods are questionable, at best, from a medical (and psychiatric, I might add) point of view.

Fast forward a few months...and imagine how surprised I was to come across the story of the parent in the previous posts. Am I shocked HLA will not send the child's transcripts? Nope. They demonstrated their pettiness, immaturity, and curious vindictiveness to me, a peer and potential referral base a long time ago. Was I surprised that personal belongings, including necessary daily medications, were sent COD?by ground? Actually, yes.

Not only did that shock me, it caused me to pick up the phone and discuss this gross mismanagement of a patient's medications with a malpractice attorney, who recommends HLA check to be sure their insurance premiums are paid.

To the parent: my suggestion is that you alert your attorney to your experience. Gather all proof of your allegations, including the boxes the personal effects were sent in, the COD receipt(s), the condition of any damaged items, a list of missing items, if any, and proof of payments made to HLA. Regardless of any contract signed (as a previous Anonymous poster cryptically stated), a minimum level of responsibility to the patient's health is required by ANY institution. That minimum includes making reasonable arrangements for the patient to have access to their medications. COD shipping by ground is not, by any standard, "reasonable."

So guess what, parent? You may be getting a sizeable percentage of the "investment" HLA coerced you to pay them right back into your pocket.

I'll be cheering for you from this sideline."

UNBIASED OUTSIDE OPINION BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL SAYS HLA IS "PREDATOR" VICTIMIZING PARENTS AND CHILDREN.  WAKE UP, PEOPLE.   :skull:
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« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2005, 11:01:00 PM »
Well now, ya'll might have noticed that Marla's post to Amazing Forums, has mysteriously dissapeared.

Here's the letter of demand:
http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/Quirk01.jpg

And here's the attached order:
http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/Quirk02.jpg

So I figured out who posted and got their permission to make it go away. We both agree that, ok, you're right, Joe. I don't have time or money to fight you and Judge Stone on this. You could fuck with me so hard my children would suffer unto the 3rd generation.

You have compelled me and another to stiffle one more bit of information that your client finds troubling. But that horse is already out of the chute. Don't you and they know that by now? You can shut ppl up one at a time, but you can't win and you can't do it in secret, either. THAT I'll fight you on. I don't even know much about HLA, I believe about half what I see and less of what I hear. But one thing I can't stand is a fucking bully. One thing bullies can't stand is to be seen.

But you seem like a decent sort of fellow, Joe. I really hope you'll be able, one day, to find better employment. I mean, my god, do you know how fortunate your clients are to have legal representation w/ a 24 hour turn around? Not many clients get that kind of attention, do they? I would think you could land a much better arrangement if you'd just try. Go on, put your resume out there. Don't be skeerd!

Oh, and by the way, have you got a brother named Mark in Boonville, Mo? I've wondered about that for awhile!

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« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2005, 12:45:00 AM »
Thank you for your willingness to allow us the forum to tell the truth Ginger.

Dont worry they cant silence us all, after all we are right and they are wrong.

No amount of court orders changes that.
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« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2005, 01:18:00 AM »
I cannot believe any of this......If HLA were smart, they would have left things alone...
Now we all know Marlas last name and her attorneys....mmmm..interesting....if they wanted
things hush, hush, they just opened a huge can of worms....Who on earth is running things over there..???
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« Reply #96 on: December 15, 2005, 01:41:00 AM »
Also, HLA, don't you all have enough to do
without watching this web-site...??  Oh,
by the way, HLA, while you are here, what
exactly are you accredited as??  and, are you a licensed, Georgia Theraputic Boarding School??
Since everyone keeps mumbling about it, why don't
you just answer their questions???  Let's see..
the staff all lie, the children all lie, there is more written about this school than the readers can take in....ex-staff lie, ex-students
lie....it is a bit much.
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« Reply #97 on: December 15, 2005, 01:51:00 AM »
Did Marla give her permission for her personal information to be published here?
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« Reply #98 on: December 15, 2005, 01:52:00 AM »
The hosts would only know that, I think.
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« Reply #99 on: December 15, 2005, 01:55:00 AM »
Also, it is public record, or the letter and order would have been sealed...however, out of respect for her, her full name and attorneys
should probably been blocked out...
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« Reply #100 on: December 15, 2005, 11:01:00 AM »
"Oh, by the way, HLA, while you are here, what
exactly are you accredited as?? and, are you a licensed, Georgia Theraputic Boarding School??"

I just went to the Secretary of State Web site for Georgia to research this.  Georgia does not licence Therapeutic Boarding Schools.
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« Reply #101 on: December 15, 2005, 12:07:00 PM »
Oh but they do license residential treatment centers do they not? We know they do from RC. Post the link you used so we may all see.
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« Reply #102 on: December 15, 2005, 01:07:00 PM »
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"Did Marla give her permission for her personal information to be published here?"


No permission required. Anything in the court order is public information, unless sealed. I have no indication that this is sealed. Joe sent me some additional info in the form of that letter. I have no confidentiality agreement of any kind w/ Joe or HLA or Judge Stone. Therefore, it's fair game. Ask Lenny Englander. I never have heard a peep outa him since I complied w/ his office's letter of demand on behalf of Calvina Fay.

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« Reply #103 on: December 15, 2005, 01:29:00 PM »
Then we will just get into the same old argument of whether or not HLA is a RTC or a Therapeutic Boarding School.  It just depends on how you interpret it.  SACS chose to accredit HLA as a traditional boarding school.  That was a reccomendation from the SACS committee after inspecting HLA.  HLA does not seek JCAHO accredidation because it does not see itself as an RTC.
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« Reply #104 on: December 15, 2005, 01:31:00 PM »
Hey Joe,
Where you goin' with that gun in your hand?
Hey Joe,
Where you goin' with that gun in your hand?
Goin' down to shoot my old lady
You know I caught her messing around with another man,
Goin' down to shoot my old lady
You know I caught her messing around on me,

Hey Joe,
I heard that you shot your old lady down, (shot down'd the ground)
Hey Joe,
I heard that you shot your old lady down,

Yes I did, I shot her her
You know, I caught that girl messing around town, (that ain't to cool brother)

Yes I did, I shot her her
You know, I caught that girl messing around town
I took out my gun,
Then I shot her!

I shot her!

Hey Joe,
Where you gonna run to now?
Hey Joe,
Where you gonna run to now?
Where you gonna go?

Ain't no hangman gonna,
Get a rope around me,
Ain't no hangman gonna,
Get a rope around me. (no one gonna)

Goin' way down south,
Way down to Mexico way
Goin' way down south,
Way down where I can be free...
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Hey Joe,

Take your demand letter and pack it up your fruity little ass.  You and your clients are as dirty as they come, boy.

Are you aware that your clients are child abusers?  Criminals?  Liars?  Thieves?  Yes, of course you are, but you don't care.  You don't care that your fees are paid with the destroyed lives of children.

Joe, my man, you are a fucking shylock and a dirtbag, just like the scumbags for whom you work.

Have a nice day.
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