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Offline Juniper1

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« Reply #120 on: December 17, 2005, 12:13:00 AM »
I am sorry, but I do not understand...'Amazing Forums' did not have to stop the letter...how can they cross 'state' lines...?  I can't
see how a judge from another state would give a 'rats a--' what Lumpkin County says...It is
infringement on a citizens 1st Amendment rights
governed by the state in which they preside...and, publishing the letter is not
against any law...defamatory or not...freedom
of speech and press...we still have that don't
we?
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« Reply #121 on: December 17, 2005, 12:17:00 AM »
How can they sue you in your home state?
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« Reply #122 on: December 17, 2005, 01:34:00 AM »
Incidentally there are laws regarding escorts taken minors over state lines to bring them to an institution but HLA doesnt heed much to that one either.
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« Reply #123 on: December 17, 2005, 11:45:00 AM »
Here's the thing, Juniper. I've never spoken w/ Marla. I've tried to send up a flair inviting her to speak w/ me about this if she wants to. But I did contact her lawyer. Legally, Marla has requested that this writing be removed (as she lacks the ability to remove it herself) And the person who posted the copy, having considered all the circumstances that we know of, drew the same conclusion; if the original author agreed, for whatever reasons, that the letter should be removed, then it should be removed. If Marla herself asked me to take it down and I could be fairly certain that it were actually she making the request, I'd send it into oblivion, no questions asked. The only thing different here is that there was a third party who came by the information honestly. That third party, being responsible for their own postings, decided that this was the 'right now' thing to do.

And so it's done. But the correspondence between me and Joe, well that's my business. If he doesn't like my spreading the stuff around, well HLA will have to pay the freight to try and put a lid on it. Either that or quit corresponding with me, seein' as how I'm such a blabber mouth and all.

Oh, and speaking of confidentiality agreements. I think the adult employees could be legally held to confidentiality agreements and conventions. But the minor children held against their will and made to 'agree' to confidentiality under duress? Good luck with that one! LOL

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« Reply #124 on: December 17, 2005, 06:29:00 PM »
If parents give their permission to take a child out of state to a school then it is legal.
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« Reply #125 on: December 17, 2005, 06:31:00 PM »
No its really not.
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« Reply #126 on: December 17, 2005, 07:24:00 PM »
Yes it is legal. If it wasn't the companies wouldn't be in existance. A parent's permission is all that is needed.
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« Reply #127 on: December 17, 2005, 07:28:00 PM »
Fine by me if you want to continue to highlight your own ignorance. Its obvious you dont know what youre talking about and are comfterable with that fact.

It is illegal. Even with a parents permission.
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« Reply #128 on: December 17, 2005, 07:29:00 PM »
Post the statute that states it is illegal.
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« Reply #129 on: December 17, 2005, 07:29:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-17 16:28:00, RobertBruce wrote:

"Fine by me if you want to continue to highlight your own ignorance. Its obvious you dont know what youre talking about and are comfterable with that fact.



It is illegal. Even with a parents permission. "
Valid point, it is illegal people, get with the times man!
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« Reply #130 on: December 17, 2005, 07:30:00 PM »
I'm not a lawyer. Besides I have no need to look up the information I already know the truth.

If youre interested by all means look it up yourself.
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« Reply #131 on: December 17, 2005, 07:32:00 PM »
Oh so you can't find where it states it is illegal then. I see.
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« Reply #132 on: December 17, 2005, 07:37:00 PM »
Not without doing a great deal of searching. Sorry you arent worth that much of my time.  Also I have no reason to do as I already know the truth. Like I said if youre interested look it up yourself.

Otherwise shut up about it and accept the fact that it is illegal to transport minors across state lines for that purpose.
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« Reply #133 on: December 17, 2005, 09:42:00 PM »
Legal or not, depends on legal talent and venue most of the time. By some definitions, it was perfectly legal for a Florida judge to extradite me from Georgia for the 'crime' of running away several months before my 18th birthday. Was it ethical? Who might have been a more worthy target, like a serial killer or rapist or something. Who was injured or killed by one of these deserving souls while they were busy fuckin' around with me? Was it sensible? Was it even a sane thing to do?

Same w/ the professional kidnappers. There may not be a specific law against it. But there are laws (austensibly) guarding the rights of minors against forced transport and participation. If a trucker picks up a willing hitchhiker and carries them accross state lines, they enforce it. I know this because, while on the lamb from the program, I've had to get out and hoof it for a mile accross state lines. If an ex marine does it for pay to an unwilling teenager, then they just don't enforce those same laws.

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« Reply #134 on: December 18, 2005, 03:17:00 AM »
In fact it is illegal if the transport is in violation of the requirements of the ICPC, which would require a pre-evaluation by a third party, permission from the sending and receiving states.
http://for :wstupid: nits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=6625&forum=9&start=10#61632
Good luck getting anyone to enforce it.

NATSAP/HLA were opposed to legislation that would provide more safety for kids being transported all over the country to programs.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#53026
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