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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 12:13:11 PM »
Another Whooter "fake, fabricated" post.  The link points to a post that says nothing resembling what Whooter wrote and if you do a search on the text of what Whooter wrote you see he's the only one who has ever said it.  He said it, then lied about where it came from.  Typical.

Now, Whooter, why did you say Anne has "unprotected sex" like you know her or anything about her?  Why would you try to tarnish her by making comments about her sexual behavior to which you are nto, and never have been privy?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 12:01:23 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
You were having unsafe sex

Whooter, you posted this about Anne Bonney.  Why did you say this?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 11:58:55 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I would rather not discuss the details of my whole family here on fornits.

Translation: "I haven't fabricated the rest of my children, my wife or my close relatives yet."

Quote from: "Whooter"
I hope you can understand this.

Why you feel the need to fabricate your entire family and your experiences?  No, I cannot understand for the life of me how anyone could be so incredibily duplicitous and phony.  Sorry.

How many phony kids and how many real kids, Whooter?  It should be a one-line answer and we can move on.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 11:49:06 AM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
You're becoming more and more desperate and it's showing.

That's true and posting about your "sex life" (intimating you were "slutty") when he has no idea who you are or what your life was like, is abusive and the mods should give him a week to think about doing things like that.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I primarily focus on my daughter here because she attended a program.

It is widely accepted that your daughter was "fabricated" by you and doesn't actually exist.  You now also claim two sons, one of which you claim you "fabricated."

Whooter, did you fabricate two sons or one daughter or both?  This is a legitimate question about your posts.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 11:41:29 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
If people are interested in why I wrote the posts that I did then this is the thread to ask me.

OK...We're asking.  

Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Oh FFS.....the whole reason he started this ridiculous thread is because he KNOWS his credibility is shot.  Someone new came along who seems genuinely interested in how programs "work" and what the fallout is from them.  Whooter knows he's caught and he's trying to explain his sock puppetry away and save face.

It ain't working and people ain't buying it.   :deal:  :twofinger:

You are partially right, Anne.  There has been a lot of trolling out in the forum of people asking me questions about my past posts.. "fabricated son" etc.  So I thought if people had a question about a specific post I could redirect it here and avoid having the thread derailed with a topic most people are not interested in.

I think it will help on many levels.


Fabricated sons.  Plural.  Or fabricated daughter, singular.  Which is it?

You started this thread to clean up your lies and explain yourself, Whooter.  Why are you attacking Anne instead of addressing those posts you wrote?

Do you have two "fabricated sons" or one "fabricated daughter"?

Just answer and we can move on.  If you want to start threads attacking Anne Bonney, go ahead and start them in trhe "OFFA" section.  This thread is to address your posts, not theirs.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 11:19:21 AM »
Here's another one from that thread where Whooter is posing as "Burt Mann" and the post previous to that one he was posting as "hmgbf" and quoting himself.

So, that's two more aliases to add to an expanding list.

Whooter, you were asked nicely before to explain the second son you are now claiming to have.  Please explain that new son we never heard about before.  Thanks in advance.

Now we're up to 53 aliases Whooter has used to troll Fornits.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 11:09:39 AM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Oh FFS.....the whole reason he started this ridiculous thread is because he KNOWS his credibility is shot.  Someone new came along who seems genuinely interested in how programs "work" and what the fallout is from them.  Whooter knows he's caught and he's trying to explain his sock puppetry away and save face.

It ain't working and people ain't buying it.   :deal:  :twofinger:

No, they are not, Anne.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 17, 2010, 11:37:30 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I would adopt a name make a post or two (to even the scales) and then stop...Although I did guest post for while there and answer my own posts to keep the rhetoric going.

I'm shocked I tell ya!  It's called "sockpuppetry" and you're a virtual Gepetto.  Funny now that I think of it.  You're both Gepetto and Pinocchio.  Multitasker.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Yes, we know.  You fabricated a lot more than that, too.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 17, 2010, 10:17:24 AM »
Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Quote from: "Whooter"
I have posted close to 10,000 posts here on fornits

FALSE.  You have posted well over 10,000 posts.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I only have one user-name.

FALSE.  You have about a dozen user accounts and over 50 aliases.

Quote from: "Whooter"
"RobertBruce ." I believe I had one (1) post
"Mark DeGroot" Less than 5 I believe
1 or 2 others that dont come to mind right now
Total posts would be under 50.

FALSE, but you stepped in it again anyway by "admitting" something different right here in your "I am a liar" thread.  One or both have to be untrue.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I believe I had 4 or 5 names plus the political ones. Maybe 25 posts total.

Can't keep your story straight even for one thread.

Quote from: "Whooter"
The specific post that RobertBruce attributed to me by NeilW below was not written by me

Really??

Quote from: "Whooter"
I posted under "NeilW"

Whoops.  Robert got you again.

Seriously, folks, this liar has gotten caught in a half dozen lies in the "Let me explain why I lied so much" thread.[/i]

Look, at this point, after 5 years of continuous lying about everything, nobody cares WHY Whooter lied.  The facts are that he has fabricated his entire story here and presented Fornits with some 50 aliases all telling different stories.  WHY he did this, nobody cares.  The fact that he did this and used all of his aliases to attack other posters, derail threads, etc is all we need to know.  

Unfortunately, there's no way to clean up the shitpile of lies Whooter has created.  The bottom line is that Whooter is a profligate prevaricator and nothing he says can be believed.  Just look at this thread he started to explain all of his lies, yet it also is rife with more lies.

Now that Fornits has new rules that were implemented to control Whooter's behavior he can't operate the way he wants to and realizes the only way for him to continue here is to normalize himself and become part of the "Fornits community."  I'm sorry to say this will not happen.  It's far too late to undo his legacy and coming forward with even more lies to try to explain away his previous lies is just more of the same.

This thread is officially declared an "Epic Failure."

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Need we go any further with this charade?

Re-read the above.  It's too late for Whooter to recover from the self-inflicted damage.  Whooter wouldn't need this thread to explain his phoniness if he weren't so goddamn phony.  It's really that simple.  This thread exists because Whooter can no longer dodge his reputation.  If he could he would have never posted this.  It is, by itself, a confession to his phoniness.  The rest is academic at this point.  Nobody cares.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 17, 2010, 06:41:40 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I have posted close to 10,000 posts here on fornits

FALSE.  You have posted well over 10,000 posts.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I only have one user-name.

FALSE.  You have about a dozen user accounts and over 50 aliases.

Quote from: "Whooter"
"RobertBruce ." I believe I had one (1) post
"Mark DeGroot" Less than 5 I believe
1 or 2 others that dont come to mind right now
Total posts would be under 50.

FALSE, but you stepped in it again anyway by "admitting" something different right here in your "I am a liar" thread.  One or both have to be untrue.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I believe I had 4 or 5 names plus the political ones. Maybe 25 posts total.

Can't keep your story straight even for one thread.

Quote from: "Whooter"
The specific post that RobertBruce attributed to me by NeilW below was not written by me

Really??

Quote from: "Whooter"
I posted under "NeilW"

Whoops.  Robert got you again.

Seriously, folks, this liar has gotten caught in a half dozen lies in the "Let me explain why I lied so much" thread.[/i]

Look, at this point, after 5 years of continuous lying about everything, nobody cares WHY Whooter lied.  The facts are that he has fabricated his entire story here and presented Fornits with some 50 aliases all telling different stories.  WHY he did this, nobody cares.  The fact that he did this and used all of his aliases to attack other posters, derail threads, etc is all we need to know.  

Unfortunately, there's no way to clean up the shitpile of lies Whooter has created.  The bottom line is that Whooter is a profligate prevaricator and nothing he says can be believed.  Just look at this thread he started to explain all of his lies, yet it also is rife with more lies.

Now that Fornits has new rules that were implemented to control Whooter's behavior he can't operate the way he wants to and realizes the only way for him to continue here is to normalize himself and become part of the "Fornits community."  I'm sorry to say this will not happen.  It's far too late to undo his legacy and coming forward with even more lies to try to explain away his previous lies is just more of the same.

This thread is officially decalred an "Epic Failure."

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Need we go any further with this charade?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 15, 2010, 02:00:30 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
He's a marketer (yes, yes....it's my belief). It's pretty much his profession to spin.

He's a program marketer.  That's the key.  No normal person unconnected to programs would spend over five years here trying to discredit people who were abused by programs.  It just fails the smell test.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 15, 2010, 01:24:44 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
you need to try to deceive the reader

No, you need to try to deceive the reader.  You are liar of the first magnitude.  You made up your whole family and story.  Your "credibility is zero," not the others who post here.

Did you forget this?

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Only a whacko would make up shit like that.  You're crazy, man.  Your whole life is a lie.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 15, 2010, 12:31:02 PM »
Why don't you "just be honest"?  You fabricated a whole family, man.  What's your need to lie?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 15, 2010, 12:16:02 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Shadyacres"

This is not lying.  These people are telling the truth AS THEY SEE IT.  At least one of these posters was a parent with no affiliation with any program.  To that parent, their daughters friend was kidnapped and tortured, period.  This, along with your other three examples lends credence to our argument that "escort" is grossly misleading and what is happening to these kids is much closer to most peoples definition of "kidnapping and torture".

Its not misleading if that is what happened to them.  How can it be?  If you were escorted than that is the fact.  If it felt different then the person can explain that but they shouldnt lie.

What if another survivor says he felt like he was abused in his program.  If after we speak to him he says he was forced to sit in a class room all day which to him "AS HE SEES IT" is abusive.  Would this then also have to be considered abuse?

If a guy says he was shot by a terrorist but it turns out to be a hunting accident.  Can he justify his lie by saying he felt terrorized and thought he was going to die?  The fact is that he was not shot by a terrorist.  The same as these kids, the fact is that they were escorted to their school.

A person cannot change the facts because of how they feel.  They can say they got hit by a bus when in fact they got hit by a bicycle just because it felt like a bus.

Spreading lies that you were kidnapped when in fact you were not is just wrong.  The same as if you were saying you were abused when in fact you were just forced to sit in a class room is lying also.



...

Same as if you created a fake family in order to advance your agenda.  People, seriously, why do you humor the ultimate liar?

Quote from: "whooter"
I fabricated a son

'Nuff said.  Nobody else here has ever been shown to be liar of this magnitude.  Not even  :shamrock: Li'l sidekick :shamrock: .

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 14, 2010, 03:26:32 PM »
Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Quote from: "Whooter"
When faced with an opportunity to be honest and just tell the truth some people will embellish and use words for the purpose of fooling someone into believing something that didnt happen.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

I only see Whooter doing this.  I have yet to see a single example of a survivor doing this.

Maybe Whooter can explain to the rest of us why he has done this repeatedly since 2005.

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