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Thank you for asking! I made major issues of it, called the county, called the cops, wrote letters, complained to asministrators, and actually was fired. Big surprise. I wasn't even that upset to be fired and I had not found a new job yet. That place was HELL for a REAL therapist... even though we had nothing to do with the program. Hell. You know why? Because I was TRAINED and I KNEW how to help people!

I suggest that before you make accusations or go on the attack, you be sure you have all the information you need. Most people here are on the same side!

And even those few months will stay with me forever. I actually was traumatized by it. And I learned that the cops and the county hated CEDU, the county never placed kids there, the state was suspicious, and the cops were continually investigating. For the rest of my life, I will have bad memories of CEDU. The only good thing was the great kids I got to know.

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On 2005-12-20 01:35:00, Anonymous wrote:


For the therapist that saw the student and didn't like what you saw why didn't you bring it up and raise an issue back then."

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Well, the teacher was just teaching. It's the "counselors" who are the real issue here. That teacher was just educating - the business was in two parts. The "emotional growth" part and the school. I never worked for CEDU, but was in a private practice up there using offices and seeing kids.

I relate to this teacher. I also wasn't there very long, but it was enough to see how terrible it was for the kids. I started looking for a job - it takes a while sometimes. The teacher who posted here couldn't just quit without another job. And teaching jobs usually come up annually.

Be mad at the counseling staff and the administrators. They should be your real target! And I think someone here posted Brandi Elliott's information - email and phone number, I believe. She was abusive and ignorant. THAT is someone to be mad at! Or Russ or Guy or Teresa... there are a lot of them. But I wouldn't put this teacher in that category. The teachers didn't participate in any of the abuse.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: November 28, 2005, 11:42:00 PM »
Oh, god - you're funny! What great points you make! Sitting there with a thesaurus! Ha, ha, ha!! Oh, that is HER!!!!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: November 23, 2005, 06:17:00 PM »
Folks, please....

This is Ottawa's work here. Maybe we should ignore her. She's not mentally healthy enough for any of us to invest time on her.



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On 2005-11-23 12:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yes, good. Fuck me too! OK, now we're getting somewhere! Fuck me! What a revelation. It's amazing that we can finally come up with such superb results from such little detail. Now, fuck me, is that statistically significant? Is that 95% or 99% accurate? Can you say with 95% confidence that the answer "Fuck You too bitch" is correct? If not, that response is not statistically significant. What measures did you use? Tau? Gamma? Chi-Squared? You must show your work for your answer to be considered correct. Next time show your work. "
[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-11-23 15:17 ]

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: November 23, 2005, 02:07:00 PM »
Guys, this isn't needed - discussing Ottawa and what a pathological jerk she is is fine. C'mon - you don't even know who each other is.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Here in the sandbox
« on: November 23, 2005, 03:17:00 AM »
Which campus were you at?

Thank you for your service! Too bad you can't come here and shoot Mel Wasserman. He's already dead.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: November 23, 2005, 02:09:00 AM »
I started this thread. There was speculation about my identity, and people asked me. If it means anything, I am perfectly okay with how this thread has shifted - that's the way Internet threads work. You end up in a completely different place than where you started.

Ottawa was spectaculary offensive to everyone here - me included. She disrespected genuine expressions of pain from CEDU survisors. She stomped on people, took on a superior air, and made threats. She caused harm here.

This is what you are seeing. This is a part of the anger expressed regarding her. Her behavior was like pouring lemon juice on a burn patient. It was horrible, destructive, and to some of these posters, confusing.

I found her to be a despicable person who appears to enjoy inflicting pain on others. I truly pity anyone she has any responsibility for. She is a sick woman.[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-11-22 23:09 ]

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Jamie, it looks like you were well-liked! However, I don't think it's appropriate to name kids who were there. Confidentiality.

I hope you find those you care about!



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On 2005-03-15 22:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It's good to "hear" some familiar voices: Jackson, Jodi, DiFalco, Cosgrove--and Steve Browning--I would love to see the more innocuous footage :razz:



To all, I need your help.  I am trying to locate any students and staff who went to CEDU HS from 94 to 98.

To echo Jackson's earlier post, I've lost some friends and I want them back.  And I've lost track of some folks I need to make amends with.  

Especially looking for Jennifer Lefler, Jessica Kolins, Cody Felder, David Bosworth, Zoe Stuart, Ben Rallo, Jennifer Sherman, Karis Kennerly, Jacques Miller, Brian Dresser.  Too many others to  name here but I think about them more often than they know.

Anybody who can help or if you'd like to get in contact with me, e-mail me at [email protected].

Jamie







 "

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: October 02, 2005, 03:29:00 PM »
Wow. I'm very imporessed with you!


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On 2005-10-02 05:58:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"I don't advocate taking any action.  I think Anne has punished herself enough with the humiliation of exposure.



Anybody who would say the things she has said should be ashamed of themselves.



I find it simply stunning to see exactly how far she was willing go so long as she felt secure in her anonymity.



She clearly exhibits the moral terpitude and ethical bankruptcy requisite for the TeenHurt business.



_________________

"Compassion is the basis of morality."



-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-10-02 06:01 ]"

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: October 01, 2005, 11:35:00 PM »
Wow. Wow, wow, wow.

Unfortunately,the board won't do anything. They only take complaints from persons who have been personally injured by her while she was functioning in a professional capacity. Also, crimes are of interest. This wouldn't get anything out of them.

Someone could print out all her posts and mail them to the chair of the psychology department at the university...




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On 2005-10-01 15:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Maybe this behavior needs to be reported to the Psych. Licensing board, too?"

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: October 01, 2005, 02:03:00 AM »
Thanks, guys. I just realized I left something off, so I added it. She consistently ignored requests that she print all her posts out and show them to her advisor. Not one word from her regarding this - only one post about "telling" her advisor she was on the boards and his not having any problem with it. Sure. If I were my student, I would ask to see ALL her posts. If she started to squirm, I would be concerned.

I have edited my post, noting her refusal to answer that challenge. Do you know why she ignored it? Because she knew she had gone over the edge! She was calling posters immature while she HERSELF was in the sandbox with them, very involved in conflict on these boards! Sick, sick woman. I truly hope she does not meet her goal of opening a facility.



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On 2005-09-30 22:12:00, dniceo7 wrote:

"Yeah, that was very well put. Definitely appreciated. "

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: October 01, 2005, 12:45:00 AM »
Dysfunction Junction, THANK YOU for letting us know! You did some work here and it is beneficial to those who were wounded by her.

I am MOST concerned to see this. She had talked about it here. There is something very wrong with her, as she spent hours and hours posting in a site that clearly had wounded souls. She had no respect for their hurt, and engaged in juvenile conflicts with them. She hurled insults thinly veiled as intellectual discussion.

As time went by, and people became more angry with her, she escalated her baiting and taunting. I've never seen anything like this from an educated "adult."

Clearly, she was compounding injuries and did not at all recognize the harm she was doing. She commented frequently about how immature people in these posts were - while she was completely lost in conflict with the posters.

This is a particularly insidious form of emotional abuse. She confused some of the posters who were not able to recognize what she was doing. Some became enraged with her - precisely what she was looking for - and then she would slam them for being upset. But SHE had created this! She took on a smug and superior air, further infuriating these people. She did not recognize that some of the rage that she stimulated had been created by CEDU experiences.

She bragged often about being a psychology graduate student - I have no way of knowing if this is true. She had an excellent facility for language - making it all the more difficult for some of our posters to handle her. She would turn anything she wished around, twisting the meaning, and pouncing on the person, pointing out what they said. This was particularly infuriating because she never accurately represented what had been said.

She would ask others questions, and if they did not answer, she attacked. However, she was challenged SEVERAL times to print out all of her posts and present them to her advisor. She never ONCE answered or responded to these challenges. Not one word. The better psychology schools require extensive therapy for each student. Also, behaviors such as hers would be of grave concern to an advisor. Although she claimed to spend ?very little time? in the posts, she produced vast volumes ? by some magic, I suppose.

I am an advisor for doctoral students. If my student presented something like this to me, I would report her to academic affairs and recommend a full psychological evaluation and therapy before she would be allowed to continue in the school. It is possible that a person such as Annie from Minnesota (interesting ? she told us she was in Ottawa, Canada) would be expelled from the university where I am a professor. It happens. These people lose all their tuition money. First and foremost, a psychologist must be mentally healthy. She clearly is not. It is the student?s responsibility to be mentally healthy and fit ? and to rectify it, if possible, if s/he is not fit.

She eventually made threats to posters, prompting me to delete many of my posts. I had been in private practice at CEDU briefly ? it was a very sick place. She then posted that she had printed out my posts, clearly threatening me, and closed with ?have a nice day!? This person is very immature and enjoys power struggles. I think she?s perfect for opening a CEDUesque kind of place.

Keep us posted as to her progress, okay?


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On 2005-09-29 16:14:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"Annie (Ottawa5) is trying to open her own private abattoir.  Apparently there's not enough processing facilities for teen meat.



She is one SICK individual and the ultimate hypocrite, as said previously.
"

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / BRANDI ELLIOTT FIRED!!!!
« on: August 06, 2005, 04:47:00 PM »
I mean - the story by the person talking about how helpful she was...

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On 2005-08-06 13:46:00, former CEDU therapist wrote:

"Wow, that's quite a story. I wonder when she changed?[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-08-06 13:46 ]"

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / BRANDI ELLIOTT FIRED!!!!
« on: August 06, 2005, 04:46:00 PM »
Wow, that's quite a story. I wonder when she changed?[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-08-06 13:46 ]

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / my identity
« on: July 31, 2005, 01:51:00 AM »
I have very sensitive information that I have shared with law enforcement. Please respect my privacy; I respect yours.


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Is this true?
Posted: 2005-07-29 16:24:00    Have people affiliated with CEDU in some way "attacked people in their own homes" or "made death threats against individuals"?

Please say more if this is true---give details if you can---I don't hate CEDu---in fact think that it did a lot of good (though it wasn't perfect as most things aren't). If this is true I would like to know about it.[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-07-30 22:52 ]
[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-07-30 22:53 ]

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