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Where is Terry Brimmer
Fuck that person.  That person's son had a hand in abusing me.  Pinellas Straight host parent.
I'd love to give their family a piece of my mind ya know.
Peace.

In finally understanding that I was abused physically, emotionally, and mentally - and not aided in the growth of my perceptions or attitudes, I have finally come to file charges against my perpetrators.  
All the people in Pinellas Straight Inc. please Hollah!!!  Thats where I did time and when these private dicks do their search I want some back up.  
Peace. Thanks.
B.

I read that Mel is busy working up more treatment centers in Canada?  Someone is anyways.  
What's to keep me from changing my name and getting a job in one of those things and just really filing a suit when I see some crap going down?!?
I was sort of wuss in treatment.  I let four people go when they were at my home.  I never restrained anyone.  Although I counseled and yelled at people when they wanted me to motivate in group, I was never really there with my heart.  All that defeated frustration got put toward therapizing my peers.  False appeal to authority.

I was getting bored reading all this stuff.
If she is angry and rebellious then maybe it is because she has lost her friends from the last school and is feeling sad and lonely, or maybe she is just as fucked up as you are.
Whenever anyone is angry it is because less enjoyable feelings or some other important emotion is disrupted - such as sadness or loss or embarassment.  
Who the fuck wants to admit to those?

Honestly, she sounds like a teenage human and go get em type of individual who could use some new experiences to channel the energy with some positive role models and then MAYBE some boundaries - so why in the HELL would you want to destroy her WILL and FIRE by paying so much goddamn money (MONEY THAT YOU made with your own pathetic wasted, dirty, confused life and soul) and attention to the fact that she is younger than you and you and your spouse are wanting her 'not to make the mistakes you made' or you are 'wanting to give her what you never had' or some other kind of FUCKed up shit like that.  

By law she has civil rights before she even emerges from the womb.  If you take those away I am absolutely certain that she will find out eventually that you did it and then you will have a relative who is your m.fing enemy until more than likely long after you and your significant other are dead - and that sucks worse than someone who is not your own blood.

A different posting from someone in the know had a REALLY REALLY good suggestion.
Allow your daughter to, if she is so rebellious that you cannot stand yourselves anymore and you are jealous beyond the point of letting yourselves accept your elderliness and passage into adulthood, go to school with some Adults.  
Definitely, if she is having some problems with getting over something that she lost, remember that your children look to you on how to act when they want to identify.  Keeping her around family that at least claim to love her (I cannot tell if you really love her or consider her as some commodity to show to the public at this point because your sorry ass got on this site to let everyone know just how much you love her and how mad at her you are - you fucking asshole, unless this is some hoax to get survivors riled up and you have nothing better to do with your time than to write hot garbage (by the way, why do you choose to remain anonymous, are you that afraid that someone needs to step in and see that you are fucking up your daughter?)) you can subtley make her see adults by 'allowing' her go to college classes at your local community college or other.  I would have eaten that up if my mom told me I could go to college or some other grown up event, she would have gotten the best out of me without me even knowing it.  
As this other post stated, adults will let her know with a quickness that she is not all grown up like she thinks she is.  At least this will help you bide the ouch and get over the fact that your daughter views you both as pieces of shit = like all teenagers who have DESIRE to learn and grow do to their parents.  And you will save A LOT of cash in the process.
If it is something other than this, I mean if you REALLY in your heart believe that she must have some kind of mental disorder or inbalance (I think that you WANT to believe this) then remember who she came from and truly asks yourselves how are YOU wrong.  What can YOU do to change instead of changing someone who cannot possibly know alot about identifying and retribution.  Your daughter.
To compound the issue, it sounds like you need to humble your goddamn self a little more.  In Japan the mother and father eat hardly a meal while the child prodigy feasts upon meat pies.
You are older than her so why not act like it and remember not to sell out when it comes to your most valuable child commodity.  Don't listen or stick your heads into anyone who believes in any false appeal to authority, because noone can help you with this and if you take anyone's (or any of several agreed pieces of advice, or a well designed brochure for that matter containing 'proven success in ratios') advice solely on the basis that it was said then you're more fucked up than I think you already are.  
I don't believe that I am the only one who feels that you may be a Lonely fucking idiot by getting on a site to tell others 'How Much' you love your daughter and how tired you are of all this.  Fucking idiot, YOU need some personal counseling because you are so caught up in the loss of your own childhood and life - and then more so if this is some sort of attempt at an example of what hasn't really happened.  Fucking idiot.  
If you would send her to a place where there are adults, and then begin to QUIT being an AUTHORITARIAN parent (an authoritarian parent is different from the good example of an authoritative parent.    Authoritarian's are assholes as they deal out punishment and act like a fucking HITLER, but they DON'T explain themselves and why it must be like that with loving STRENGTH and Confidence and back it up with further EXPLAINED consequences - either because they are not sure of themselves or because they feel they are too good to do so or they just don't care enough.), then you may see some results as you demand boundaries to her right to freedom.
I wish that you were not her legal guardians you sniveling morons, because at this point in post you have proven you are not doing a very good job and I will bet that she will be your enemy in years to come.  There is nothing you can say, no example you can give that tells me that children listen to the respect their parents hope for.  'I brought you into this world so you owe me', 'I am older than you so...', 'You belong to me.', 'Because Iiii Said So.'.  NOT ONE.  
I am assured in looking at your posts you think that by MAKING her obey you that you will make a friend in years to come, moreover a productive member of society who has a healthy respect for who she is and others too.
If you do care then maybe you do need some time to recommit to your wife and get some help for yourselves because it sounds like either you two are not doing well in therapy (many people skip around to different therapists until they find one who works) and obviously not finding agreements on what is going to happen with the punishments, not to mention that your wife is making a damn fool of you and I know that's gotta sting.  Maybe your wife feels that you are not EXPLAINING the reason for the punishment to either her and/or your daughter, and therefore your wife obviously feels a little trapped and unsure as well.  That would be my hypothesis as to why she is fucking up your foot being put down.  Loved ones do sometimes depend on loved ones to 'start it up'.  If your wife is more or less confused than you are, then make that first attempt and start explaining yourself and your emotions dude.  Then mix it up by letting your other half do some of the boundary and consequence making, even your son and daughter - they'll thank you for it.  Stop dealing in ultimatums and stereotyping.
Hey,  Enjoy the hell that you created!!!
Trapped and unsure and those other feelings are those less than obvious things you get a few moments before you find yourself being inconsiderate, annoying, especially angry because you want to PROTECT yourself or your pride, or perturbed because you just lost something or whatever.
  Or maybe you don't kick ass and rule in the bedroom like you should dude, I don't know cos I'm not there.  Doubtless you feel powerless right now, you have let this consume you and all of your privacy and private thoughts.  Why not take up a hobby? Or if that is to dull for you, why not see a counselor on your own, or take up a sport or a new job or something?  Have your daughter come along and meet some adults you would not mind letting them show her how it is to be kind?  It may take awhile to get yourself from being ALL wrapped up in your family.  You have done something right to get this damn far, now kick it up a notch.  Bitch.
  In my own personal mysoginistic ways I would flip the script on your wife and trick her and leave her with the children for a few days cos it sounds like she needs help too but the ship is sinking and you don't really have time to listen to, 'Im going to leave you if this persists'.  
  Leave those type of people alone, my father would say.

  I'm through adding insult to your injured life   - so -   if you decide to abandon your family I will meet you in Barcelona at a place called the Barcelona Bar.  They have some great chasers there that will let you forget for awhile the fact that you really suck and don't know what the hell you've done with your life you fucking emotionally unavailable idiot.
  Most of this I definitely speak from experience.  Except that I don't rule in the bedroom and abandon my family.  
You shoulda never had kids and definitely SHOULD HAVE learned to bite the bullet enough to use protection in the nappy dugout, dude.  
If you are half the man you wish you were then stop actin like a bitch and love your daughter some more cos she is testing your wife and you and her new big world to find out who she is going to be and nothing more.
My bet is on your daughter becoming just as vindictive and sad as you are, and sending her to others who promise healing will make this a fact.

I apologize. I could have summed that all up into one little sentence.  Here it is:
Stop looking for confidants to your poor parenting skills because you will always suck.  
I lied.  I cant sum it up in one sentence because your daughter knows that you are not in charge and especially that you don't have time to figure HER out and you can't stand yourself because she's knows you and your wife are unorganized whusses (I don't know how to spell whuss but if I did I would tape it to your forehead).  You have to show her you are in charge (because you know you are not) and make her pay for Your inabilities by breaking her will in two, man.  Show her you are as frightened as you are making yourself out to be by posting that you are searching for a better way, dude.  I know we live in a litigious society where even children are apt to call HRS on their own parents these days.  The solution to that is to definitely get some 'Toughlove' and let everyone know that you are part of a dieing generation by posting to the WHOLE fuckin world that you need help with your own flesh and blood.  Gone are the days of the value of a good spanking.

This post has been my wish that you enjoy your eternal hell.  When you commit suicide, or your daughter does because you let that counselor you sent her to rapes her because he deals with parents like yall who want to drop off their children and let his firm babysit for you and so he sees that glimmer in her eye that tells him you won't even ask her what happened to her per each session because you blindly trust the 'goodness' in others but not your very own evil flesh and blood daughter, can I have some of your personal property???  Will you sell me your home when it starts to foreclose after the divorce in a coupla months or years there bub???
Let me know what sort of occupation your son goes into when he gets older and is succesful because you didn't lavish him with so many totalitarian tightass rules and demands - like you did separately to your first born.  I may be in need of his services.  
Probably he will be a counselor who will counsel your first born when she is in a psych ward because your wife and you succeeded in breaking her will to test boundaries and grow.  At least you succeeded in breaking her will to test YOUR world and not HER world.  What great friends and parents you both are.  And your son will have a paycheck each month, too.
I have some doctors in my family who can, for a small fee, medicate your daughter forever.  At your son's behest they will sign a form that can keep your daughter on lock down pretty much indefinitely.

Hmm, you could just send her where adults go to school now or even emancipate her and give her the chance to see she is not so big, or something creatively supportive to her and avoid further trouble and wasting your money on bills you don't truly want.  Or you could just fuck off some more and keep asking questions against what you know in your private heart to be kind and right.  Before you jump to defend your poor position, go and think about these things on your own private time (find some private time)(don't think so much about the ad hominem abusive fallacy statements I made about your sorry ass life), insensitive small minded motherfucker that you are.
Most of all find yourself in finding some time to yourself that you don't share with others especially your daughter because it allows you the excuse to lay blame on her that she is ruining YOUR life.  Her life is unfolding and so is yours so quit trying to end it so quickly and trying to make your poor excuse for a life into something it is not which is not so great.  Quit playing GOD.  Also, when you take ONE turn to spend attentive time with your child, then you can take ONE other turn to develop your own life (while remaining in the home and ignoring your children's constant need for attention) for just you, you will see that it makes you less of a scared little bitch and more of a legible adult.  Your whole family included.  Fucker.

I dont or I don't remember a Kevin Lowe.
I was wondering, though, who you might have know in the Pinellas program down on Gandy.  I was in there from 85 to 88.
I know Kevin and Matthew Belski.  I remember John Myers and a few others like Christine Hartel.
You???

Just wrote to the Peter Times.  

Dear Editor:

Perhaps I have misread your reluctance to publish well deserved letters simply because of prior stories irregarding the crimes Mel Sembler has commited.  You are aware that this presupposes that you and yours (Saint Petersburg Times) accepts blood money from the Semblers.  In your heart and mind you factually know the crimes I write of, but just in case you have forgotten momentarily allow me to remind you what you know in humanity's and more importantly your own name to be true.  Rape, murder, false imprisonment just to name a few.  Starvation, truancy...shall I go on???  Medical malpractice, invasion of privacy, thousands of assaults on the misdemeanor and mostly felony levels, illegal seizure of property, denying of civil rights, perjury, tampering with evidence.  I am entirely certain that I have left out more than ten times More than ten documented crimes that Mel Sembler and his lackies have intended.
I am one among thousands who are not waiting for the day to come when your boss, Mel Sembler, will pay for his crimes exacted upon mostly children.  That day SHALL arrive when him and his can no longer hide behind the falsehoods of his government support.  The Sembler's represent all that is evil in the eyes of the law of the United States of America.  Mel and his wife Betty and their colleagues who created the cult Straight Incorporated and its likenesses have a new story for you to work on dear editor.  It would be worth your time to investigate the downfall of Sembler and his reckless sickening deadly kind.  
Maybe I misread, but please don't brush this letter, or any other letters made to support all who have been under the wake of a known terrorist off as merely casual additions to prior stories you've already accumulated for your repetoire.  That war on drugs, your uninformative stories about the criminal Mel Sembler, are just cover ups for the lies that make human's lives impossible to live out daily without some grudge or stain upon the sun.
When your son or daughter breathes today, when they breathe a healthy breathe of mentally stable air; remember that you and your kind are lucky to be on the laundered money end of Mel Sembler and his Third Reich.  
Perhaps I have misread your intentions when you said that you couldn't publish the stories to help Bradbury continue to heal himself against the travesties Sembler is continuing to cause.
If I misread that you are somehow in cohorts with the known terrorist Mel Sembler and my eyes deceived me, then I know that my heart and your heart are similar in that you will find a way to publish these letters not in aiding prior stories but because it is the good thing and the right thing to do for a more certainty of purpose in the faltering breed of true journalism.  
Publish under the obvious topic 'Semblers prey to their own justice', or something just like this.
Very truly yours, Anonymous.  Survivor of Straight Saint Petersburg '85 to '89.

I contacted Wes this morning before writing my first post.  I'm thinking - neglect of civil rights, child abuse, truancy.  
As you say, I will contact this other sight and see how far we are with an investigation to file claims.

My name is Brian (Alex).  I am a survivor of Straight Incorporated of Pinellas.  I was there from the years of around '86 to '89, three years.  I was released only when I became of legal age, I guess I got graduated because staff knew I would cop out legally anyways.  In about two weeks of emancipation I told my mother I was suicidal, and two weeks after that I was on a plain back to Texas to live with dad and step mom I hadn't been allowed to speak to for three years.  
I am recently discussing my events with a counselor, coming to relive that daily routine I lived in there.  I am unmasking emotions that I have about the constant breaking down.  I have all of the emotions that others in my shoes feel.  I feel that motherfucking rage for being incarcerated by the supportive government.  Over the years after straight I have gotten myself into legal trouble because I learned to hide those shameful feelings about my family and myself and what happened.  I have learned to fight when I feel I am about to lose something I have no control over anyways.  
If you read the discertation the counselors have written on my trauma because of Straight you would see my meds there, and the doc wants me on it in order to curb my inflicted bipolar disorder.  Lithium carbonate.  The counselor offers EMDR which helps my PTSD, a trauma with induced flashbacks that is typical of people who actually survive long term abuse.
After Straight I went on to try some recreational drugs.  Weed, alcohol, acid.  
Its hard to remember anything about Straight even though I have nightmares about it sometimes.  I don't remember alot of what they told us to keep anonymous, but I do know that its hard for me to focus today - hard still to listen intentively to much but the yelling and abandoning from my past.  Its hard to trust others even today because I am afraid they are analyzing me or will turn on me.  I remember having to spit therapize other people in order to be part of the group.  I remember the losing friends in Straight when I wasn't getting the help I needed.  I mean, my problem was never drugs - it was my family and I that had problems.  Group sessions never adressed my issues I was simply told with that great psychobabble lingo that we all learned that perhaps I had addictive tendencies.
Sometimes I fantasize I really want to kill my parent or something like that for the three years that got taken from me - of course, my parent was duped, too.  Its like being raped and you don't have a choice but to hang on and either get even or become stoic and sorta act like everything is okay.  My single parent put me in their for help because we fought alot about appearance and ethics.  After I got out my parent told me that I was wrong for not helping out the whole family while in Straight, and that I was trying to rebel against them for staying in there so long.
Yeah I really hate shame and guilt and loss feelings.  But that is what me and this counselor are talking about, talking about how I mask these 'less than perfect feelings' - mask with anger and trying to fuck up someone else's shit now.
We have also discussed class action law suits.  I am here to find out how to bring law suits against anyone who took the time to take away my life and abuse and confront and spit on me and incarcerate me and hold me truant about things I never did for three years.  I am aware of limitations but I am also aware that there are thousands that are looking for fair justice.
I'm here to protest wherever there will be protesting because protesting is fun and it helps to the good feelings.
I am nauseated when I hear that term that fits my situation so well, 'It's Time For the Silence to End'.  My piers pressured me to tell them everyday and even on Sundays that the first and most important rule was Anonymity.
This is beginning and I believe that somehow these criminals will be brought to justice and no longer allowed to hide behind its blindness.  Please email me if you'd like to discuss truancy suits, equal rights and liberties suits as this is what I am interested in filing for.
Where is Sam Monroe?  She is a pillar.  I met her at a convention and I am inspired by her tenacity.  
I will try to share more specific experiences on these posts.