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Quote from: "Deborah"

"They have not brought in one witness to say those tactics are illegal.

Murder by ammonia inhilation is not illegal?[/
If jurors found those tactics are wrong, every boot camp in the state would be guilty of child neglect, he said..
Yer that'd be good stuff

No! No no no  no!

how the FUCK did this happen??? I saw them kill him as did you all - what pay off was there?

jesus this is why i dont come here anymore, I am enraged to the point of - it doesn't matter what i'm enraged to doing, thank God I started the support group here before it becomes a trend in the UK

Fucking fucking fucking - no justice for this child, none


The Troubled Teen Industry / Even after release, this kid's not safe
« on: September 07, 2007, 09:55:10 AM »
I assumed it was a boy - that'll teach me to assume  :oops:

Thanks for putting that right Deborah  :D

Quote from: ""Guest""

 This is Internet Terrorism - and to allow it only promotes > more
> hate and abuse.
Like the programs websites?

Like the programs?

 encouraging bodily harm, invasion of privacy and more)
> - used for hate, slander,
> libelous, harassment, **outright fraud**, and more. >
Like the programs?

> cost me over $150K with just the one defendant. I had to second
> mortgage my home and go through my savings to protect my children.
Like the programs? Parents spend the same to do what they think is the same

 If you go to the website and do a
> search on my name (Sue Scheff) and PURE I am confident you will have no problem seeing
> this horrific abuse.
Couldn't resist editing this down to one sentence  :rofl:

Sounds like it's not so pleasant when the shoe is on the other foot! It's okay when all of the above is happening to someone elses family huh?

Psy you are one dangerous person, how could you put someone through this trauma? We all know you're capable of this evil you're being 'sued' for  :lol:

The Troubled Teen Industry / Lichfield in LawSuit
« on: September 07, 2007, 07:18:40 AM »
Yer sorry I saw after the fact that this topic had been discussed

But as some did miss it, all's good, definitely worth keeping after considering the amount of Utah based stories that come out, it always seems to be Utah  :question:

The Troubled Teen Industry / Even after release, this kid's not safe
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:51:38 AM »
The thing I found most alarming when I came across this, is when I sat down and thought about what this lad had been subjected to - did he agree to go along with it because it became a normal thing to do for him? Both in terms of doing what a councelor tells him to do no matter what or that he'd been abused over the years and didn't even suspect it to be wrong.

I'm going with this theory because of his age and the fact he didn't have to have anything to do with his assailant, he'd already left the many others just accept this as a way of life, the norm?

There is the chance of course that he is gay anyway (maybe why he was sent there in the 1st place?) and was having a relationship with the man, but there is a lack of hs parent's speaking out here, wouldn't every parent be speaking to the pres going absolutely balistic? making sure it never happens to another kid?

This thread is about the loss of a 14 year old boy - show some sensitivity for Godsake

The Troubled Teen Industry / Another One Bites The Dust: Ashby Academy
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:21:56 AM »
Why can't learning disabled children stay at home??

I don't understand the need for centres like this .. they can learn everything they need to learn at home and go to a special needs school on a daily basis can't they?

The Troubled Teen Industry / Struggling Teens' new board - All Posts
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:12:56 AM »
Oh - the 1st post  :(  that poor girl, as if its not terrible enough being bi polar and the struggles she has to face with her own mind on a daily basis without getting sent away from her family for it  :cry: it's not like wildernes can cure it

That's really upset me, I can't magine ever sending my little boy away from me just because he has depression, adhd, asd, cognitive bahvioural disorder among other problems, he needs me more than anything right now  :(

The Troubled Teen Industry / Lichfield in LawSuit
« on: September 05, 2007, 03:15:47 PM »
The president of WWASPS, Ken Kay, said in an interview the lawsuits are a ploy to get money and dismissed the credibility of former students making allegations.

Whatever reason could he have for saying this *puts thinking cap on*  ::ftard::

I can't see where he's tried to justify himelf, hes just bringing in another angle on how the system works (or doesn't)

didn't you all just hate it when Struggling Teens would only listen to one side of the story? What makes this any different all the time no-one will open their minds to everyone's view of what happens.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Even after release, this kid's not safe
« on: September 05, 2007, 02:31:26 PM »
A 38-year-old counselor from a group home for troubled youths has been arrested on rape and other charges in connection with his actions involving a 16-year-old former resident of the home, Town of Tonawanda police said.

David Clayton, of Northview Drive in Lockport, a counselor at Wyndham Lawn, was charged with third-degree rape, criminal sexual act and endangering the welfare of a child, according to police.

The investigation began early today, after Officer John Oddo stopped Clayton's vehicle on traffic charges after it had left a Niagara Falls Boulevard motel at about 2:55 a.m. Police later learned that his 16-year-old passenger had been discharged from the facility last month.

Further investigation, police said, led to the criminal charges against Clayton ... 3884.story

"We are shocked and extremely concerned that a member of our staff has been charged in connection with his actions involving a child," the Wyndham Lawn statement said.

Why so shocked? It happens all the time!!

The Troubled Teen Industry / Lichfield in LawSuit
« on: September 05, 2007, 02:26:35 PM »
What? In Utah?

Can't be!!  :evil: ... 06-20.html

The Troubled Teen Industry / Family Contracts
« on: September 02, 2007, 10:06:28 PM »
Quote from: ""Wandering Waygookin""

What Exhausted demonstrates to her sons is the willingness to grow, change, and improve herself right along with them.
i persoanlly don't think it would work in any other way for MY kids - what use is a family contract that only involves the kids conforming? the kids aren't the family, we all are, if I don't stick to it and do some listening, paying attention, stop being a whinebag, then how can i possibly ask them to stick to their side of it?

To me it's not about controlling them, or them controlling me, it's about compromise that we can all see on paper, it's easier to stick to when it's there written down ... I've wanted to burn it many times when those crosses build up, thinking it isn't working, but that one tick is what keeps us going, that's what makes it worth it and believe me, the ticks are overshadowing the crosses by a long's taken 10 weeks to get the chart lookng like that, but 10 weeks well worth spending sticking it out.

As for those program contracts, wtf?? The kids are in a lose lose situation all the way, ugh, and to think i used to think that way... poor kids  :(

Open Free for All / For your local high-school
« on: September 02, 2007, 09:53:19 PM »
Just an idea

are you allowed to put things like this in shop windows in the states?

Sweet shops might be an idea

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