In his earlier quote Artman says:
"Millions of people recovering cant all be wrong."
Now, I don't get along with GregFL, but I think he said it best about religions and group think - concerning what you had posted Artman. He basically stated, in a different post, that EVERY religion is life changing. Therefore, I agree with you Artman - that millions of people ARE recovering in AA. But likewise, MILLIONS of people ARE also improving and recovering themselves in things like returning to church, or taking up a hobby that relieves stress instead of picking up their habitual bottle, they are maybe seeking counseling, or learning ways to heal the past or warm up and become intimate with an old loved one, or just enjoying a desired book that may change their viewpoints, YOU name it.
I fucking get it, OKAY?!? I get it. A.A. works for you, you are with them and they are with you and all that this entails the whole shabang including group speak and cliques. I get it, and what you are doing is worthwhile. As you're AA group might coin a phrase - I think its appropriate here - "there are two sides to every story". Generally if you want others to agree with you in a debate the skill to use is not aggression but aquiescence, meaning that you listen and seek to understand first - and only then it is more safe to expect to be listened to.
I personally don't care for what you have to say about AA and its meetings. And I sure as hell won't listen to you if you can't listen first. Five or more people have told you the same thing and you still don't listen. They are saying that A.A. is good as a means to get you where you need to go, but it is NOT the End All Be All of anything at all. You are you, you are not AA. It is your habit and your god, not AA's.
Also, you keep saying you are entirely done here and you won't come back to this forum but I have a sense you will read this soon and that you will comment.
Be well.
