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Ottawa2:
Hi everyone!
So, I just read all of the posts when something occored to me. With all this talk about answering question I relized that Anti never answered mine! You know, about the two year old with dangrous objects?

Something else also came to mind as I read. Just a little bit ago everyone wanted my mother to leave this site but now they are asking her to post! Kinda weird if you ask me.

Also, several people keep saying my mother denied that abusis happened at these schools. As I recall she never did. In fact I remember her saying she was aware of them. (thats why she want to start her own school so that things like that will not happen) Now if anyone can find a time when she said something like "No, that never happened you are lieing!" Please let me know.

SOS: I guess you must have all the time in the world to spend on this site. My mother however dose not. She will post her reply as soon as she can.  You are entiled to you opinion of me I guess but I think that you should listen to Shanlea. She is really on to something. Do you really belive that anyone will listen to someone going "***** YOU! YOU ******* ****!!! YOUR JUST A LITTLE ***** WHO BEEN BRAINED ******!!!"? Cuz really thats what you, OD, and Bryan sound like a lot of the time.

OD: My mother asked my brother to come and look at this site. But he said that he had no interest in it.
PS. Anti please get back to me whenever you can Im just courius (sp?) thats all.
PPS. Havent I said a lot of this before???
 :wave:

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2004-09-04 09:14:00, Ottawa2 wrote:

Hi everyone!
So, I just read all of the posts when something occored to me. With all this talk about answering question I relized that Anti never answered mine! You know, about the two year old with dangrous objects?

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Sorry, I don't remember the question. If you're trying to compare a 2 year old w/ a sharp object to a young adult who's not following their parents instruction, well, there's no comparison. You can do a whole lot of harm to a young adult, though, by denying their intillect and maturity level and treating them like a two year old.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
--Herbert Spencer
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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2004-09-03 18:34:00, blownawaytheidahoway wrote:

 but I want you to know how very much I disagree with the contention that the program, as it was FOR ME, could be good for anyone.

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If someone gets hit by a bus, they might come out of the experience stronger and with a new and better perspective and set of priorities on life. It's the truth, you can read any number of autobiographies by people who have overcome adversity and gotten a new lease on life.

Forced thought reform is like throwing someone in front of a bus in the hope they will experience that kind of catharsis.

Don't let your dogma run out in front of your karma.
--Anonymous
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_________________
Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
Seed sibling `71 - `80
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
   10/80 - 10/82
Anonymity Anonymous
Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.

shanlea:
I do feel your mother glossed over the abuses as isolated incidences. OK, so we disagree.

Some people wanted her to leave because this offended them.  I'm just a questioning, curious cat who wondered what she liked about the program that made it worth overlooking the other stuff. Also, since she is interested in starting her own school, I want to know what she thinks will benefit kids.

I don't think Antigen would say yipee if her her two year old was running around with scissors; I think she discerns the line between protecting her kid and letting them fall on their ass so they learn authentically.

Ottawa2:
Hey there!
I just wanted to clearify (sp?) a few things.
1. Shanlea, people continue to say my mother "denied" what happened to then I do not care if they are angry with her. But please be angry at her for something that she actually did!

2. Anti, this was the question: According to you theroy a 15 year old can be ready for the real world. If that is true then why not let a two year old play with a dangrous object (not ever siccors, something they might sallow, burn them selfs on ect) would they not "learn" from it? :wave: [ This Message was edited by: Ottawa2 on 2004-09-04 14:16 ]

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