Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones
For the Guys on Moose Talk
shanlea:
Hello Guys, As you are aware, we all share similar perspectives on CEDU. For awhile, I was unbelievably pissed off about Ottawa's total lack of concern (not to mention condescending attitude)toward our first-hand experiences.
But I still don't understand this most rank vulgarity and abuse directed at them. It still seems to me that if you decry the abuses of CEDU, then you shouldn't emulate it. Be angry and tackle it on rationale; please don't bring perverse sexual and violent acts into it.
Also O2 is just a kid and shouldn't be subjected to this. With all the presumptuous BS we put up with at CEDU where they rewrote our history and issues to their script, we shouldn't possibly make presumptions about the Ottawas except on the basis of their attitude directed toward us and their argument for CEDU.
All they know is that they had a messed up kid who made a "miraculous" recovery at CEDU. To them, the proof is in the pudding.
That is why I asked if it matters HOW the end was procured, and what specific facts they can posit on behalf of CEDU's methodology, and as you can see, they came up with nada so far. (Which I figured.)
Also, for other parents, it may be helpful to understand the long term effects CEDU had on you. I know OD already wrote of it and directly credits CEDU for it. I know SOS and Bryan both said they have very successful lives after going through some tumultuous times. (Which to me proves they didn't need the "school" to begin with.) But still, parents researching these schools should be aware of the long term effects. (Or how someone can be seemingly successful when they graduate but still be traumatized.)
But if we talk about moose cocks and call people ugly losers, and make assinine assumptions, then we deflect from the purpose. Do we really want this site to turn into the Elan board which is all puerile invective that doesn't have anything to do with Elan?
I'm coming from a sincere place. Please don't treat me to an extra special double delight of a rap session.
Antigen:
A few years ago, I got together w/ some friends and picketted a Program location on open meeting night. The leader put on a pretty good show by standing stockily in front of the door, arms folded, face straight forward while we shouted various things about child abuse along with encouragement to the kids inside that we were working on getting them out.
My friend, Kim, took the bullhorn and shouted "Loretta! You're closing off! What are you hiding?!" Loretta snapped her arms down to her sides before she could help herself. (in Straight, we were not allowed to cross our arms or legs, as that's body language for not being receptive) It was frelling hysterical!
Sometimes it's tough to resist giving someone a dose of their own medicine. But I agree, this stuff is hard to watch sometimes. What if O2 really is a kid? Would you talk like that to a kid irl?
Ardent advocates of prohibition were obsessed by a zeal that bordered on fanaticism. They supported politicians who voted to outlaw liquor, no matter how much of it they privately consumed, and spurned politicians who voted against prohibition, no matter how sober they were personally.
Sen. Sam Ervin, Preserving The Constitution
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Ottawa2:
Shanlea: Thank you for trying to stop some the insain rabbleings (sp?) on this site. Trust me my mother will get back to you, but she want to make sure to give you as much detail as possible. She dose not want to leave anything out so it might take some time. Plus her school work and life out side of this site take up quite a lot of her time.
And yes I am just a kid (well technilly Im an Adult now) but trust me some radom guys on a obscure web site are not enough to upset me. (if anything it make me laugh)
:wave:
blownawaytheidahoway:
f it
Ottawa2:
Thank you Blownaway! :wave: [ This Message was edited by: Ottawa2 on 2004-09-02 18:04 ]
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