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Hidden Elan School secrets (repost from cache)
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#181 Post by Marina » Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:57 am
--- Quote ---Hey... I was told I was going to Elan. My mother described "Elan" as a "study abroad program" for students who had problems adapting to the regular school system.
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#182 Post by E7haterJe » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:24 pm
--- Quote ---I was at the John Dewey Academy, which I voluntarilly agreed to go to with my mom. When I arrived there, my mom said to me "Jenn you dont have to stay if you dont want to" and I said "No mom, this seems real cool, I think it will be good for me" after 2 weeks, I was calling my mom daily, crying that I wanted her to come get me, and by then she realized life without my drama, was better, and said "stay there till you graduate, I changed my mind, you have to stay", thats when I rebelled and ran away to NYC, (because you could there) and after 3 shots, the president of the academy Tom Bratter, was like "no, this is a voluntary program, we recommended The Elan School to your mom, and he kept insinuating I remember of this kid SHIT I cant remember him name, who was sent there from the John Dewey Academy too, and he was like THERE U CANT GET AWAY WITH THIS...
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#183 Post by Pete » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:31 pm
--- Quote ---That kid from John Dewey was probably Louis Mayerson. Nice guy.
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#184 Post by E7haterJe » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:40 pm
--- Quote ---no i do remember his name started with a J
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#185 Post by Guest » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:03 pm
--- Quote ---there were sorta...complications...on going yesterday. so I don't know. I could either hastily run away today, or wait for a more suitable time even though I have only a week or two to decide.
As for everyone saying I'm a troll, I was trying to be nice about it, but I don't appreciate having accusations thrown at me, so FUCK YOU.
that felt good. Anyway, you were saying how you weren't told about Elan--I believe that;
-everyone involved is to squeamish to hire a bounty hunter for whatever reason, I guess lest they look really bad, and
-they wouldn't get or keep me in a car for long either lying or not telling me where I was going.
e7, or anyone, what exactly did you do in NYC? I have everything worked out, except I still don't have much of an idea where I can stay.
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#186 Post by artman11111 » Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:09 pm
--- Quote ---Thanks Deanna ::bangin:: ::spam:: ::spam:: ::spam::
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#187 Post by Pete » Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:54 pm
--- Quote ---Art don't do that. I don't think the kid's a troll.
If you try to seek out a Catholic charity shelter like Covenant House, they will probably put you up. But should you really run away? Have you tried to reason with your parents?
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#188 Post by artman11111 » Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:08 pm
--- Quote ---just too many coincidence's
i could be wrong .. and hope i am
But i am a synic at heart and put nothing past the Elan corp...
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#189 Post by SyN » Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:24 am
--- Quote ---sorry to say your a troll kid if you aren't. But survivors dont seem to trust much, thats why we congregate together, and are striving to end the elan program and hopefully others.
Nothing personal, but if you do go to Elan you will understand.
First piece of advice. Dont run. from experience you cant comprehend untill your older. dont run. thats what they want, it seals, and sells the deal. you run your deamed out of controll and cant be trusted. Equaling incarceration for your own good. DIG?
Second, if your not there yet, you have unlimited hope. Share this site with them, as well as jackies site.
http://groups.msn.com/TIMETOCLOSETHEDOORSOFELAN
honestly no one here knows what goes on in elan alums forums dedicated to parents, so i cannot say or recomend that one fully but the open forums tells the tale.
Start finding out for your self where you stand with them at this imediate time so as to know what you need to do to not get enrolled.
Third. straighten the fuk up and play the game right. Something your doing is getting you sent to a horrible place ment as " tough love." Even if you dont agree staighten the fuk up and play the game right. Game being life man.
Its how everyone else plays and gets by, there will be hella time to define your self and create the reality you want now, but cant have. Teen years are rough, dont loose them. Most of us dont know what it was like to be 15 16 17 18. We lost that time and will never get it back. dont fuk your time up man, or chik, w/e
recap and define your self, but do it subtly and without harm to anyone, (anyone includes you).
The only philosophy that stuck with me through my elan time
Seeing yourselves in the eyes of others shall demand change.
It is actually showing its'self now. Be well and feel free to email me if you want some help or a person to talk to.
you can change it all if you want to.
hopefully you arent a fukn troll and i didnt just waste all this time and space for nada.
SyN
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#190 Post by E7haterJe » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:15 am
--- Quote ---Wow!!!!! That was beautifully said!!! I love the way you put all your thoughts together...
All so true...
Jenny :nworthy:
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#191 Post by SyN » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:22 am
--- Quote ---thanks, my ghetto keeps slippin out though. lol ::hehehmm::
Syn
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#192 Post by Guest » Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:33 pm
--- Quote ---ELAN IS HELL RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOW STOP READING AND GO!
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#193 Post by Guest » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:58 pm
--- Quote ---RUN RUN LIKE AN ANTELOPE
ROLL ROLL LIKE CANTELOPE
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#194 Post by Guest » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:21 am
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--- Quote ---On 2002-08-28 03:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
how about the guy who used to piss shit and throw up in his hands and then throw it on people.
or the time they tied him to the chair with restaints and then his sp's dumped him down the stairs while still tied to the chair.
or the time when two kids ran away from elan 3 and the strength sent after them from elan 7 beat the living shit out of them in the woods, and never told staff, how do i know, i was one of them( the strength).
or the time when one of the children there was sexually molested by a staff memeber and they covered it up by sending him to another house.....
the list keeps getting bigger....
and bigger.....
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are you talking about chris williams? the pathetic kid from maine or the kid that got booted from 7 to 3?
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#195 Post by Guest » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:26 am
--- Quote ---Hey, I was looking up criticisms of John Dewey Academy on the net, and very suprisingly i found almost none. This isn't to say that JDA is not a beneficial school for those who complete it, but my story as a very brief student there (a few years ago by now) was outright ridiculous. When my parents came down to help me out after I was having trouble in my second week, Mr. Bratter called my Mother a "stupid bitch" because she disagreed with his idea of making me wear an eight inch dildo around my neck, to signify that I was going to be raped if i ever left the school. Then i was also told that I would be selling myself out on the street to make a living as a 15 year old boy. Tom Bratter may have helped a lot of people out, and I don't deny it, but I just want people to have a better idea of the bullshit that he will pull when provoked (and i certainly did provoke it) By the way i was also threatened to go to Elan, and managed to convince my parents to turn back about 40 minutes from the entrance. Thank fucking God
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#196 Post by Guest » Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:45 am
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--- Quote ---On 2004-04-07 21:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
By the way i was also threatened to go to Elan, and managed to convince my parents to turn back about 40 minutes from the entrance. Thank fucking God
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Consider yourself touched by an angel.
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#197 Post by xres8182 » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:59 pm
--- Quote ---Dildo around your neck? That's some funny shit
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#198 Post by Guest » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:04 am
--- Quote ---hey marina,this is valerie martinez just thought id say whats up luv y lots
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#199 Post by Guest » Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:17 am
--- Quote ---yeah, i was stouched by an angel instead of a fucking Mainer Heroin addict. Maine Sucks worse than a vietnamese jizz whore.
OH yeah, i forgot to mention this, Tom's desk drawer and the "leave at anytime policy is bullshit" i left and Tom called the cops on me, only to bring me back so he could tell me "think of me when you're getting raped" and then sent me to the police station.
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#200 Post by SyN » Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:42 am
--- Quote ---got a # we can reach this prick at?
SyN
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#201 Post by E7haterJe » Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:33 pm
--- Quote ---Who are you???? That you went to JDA?? I went there...ugh....
Were you there around the time...when Tom Bratter was getting acussed of molesting a girl in Scarsedale? I looked it up online to see if I could find any stories about it but I couldnt find it.
I remember, when I first met him with my mom, and heard he was being accused of those rape charges, I felt he was capable of those things, from thevibe I got from him....(If your a girl, you can get vibes from men by the way they look at you) ewwww.....
He used to plan outings, which involved going to his actual house!
What kind of owner at a theraputical boarding school, plans an all day event at his personal house? I remember we all went to his house, we had a huge bar-b-que, and me and like 2 girls and a couple of guys and Tom Bratter, sat in this huge jacuzzi/hot tob on his back porch. The only things I can remember loving about JDA now that I think back is, being able to do whatever you wanted when you needed too, the beautiful ceiling in my bed room,the huge Castle the I lived in, the painting I have that I painted of JDA while sitting under a tree outside of the whole front of the school actually, it was the back. Playing sports in front. Sitting on the pay phone down stairs by the main bathroom with my feet up. Walking to the store to buy shampoo and stuff. Talking to the strange yet intresting people in that small town of Great Barrington.
Whatever...and more....
I left 3 times--from JDA on the bus t Port Authority to stay in NYC with my cousin. I remember I used to buy my ticket at that store across the road, that sold ickets and I was 16 yrs old, which in that town was a legal age for smoking traveling etc...like 18 is here, 16 then was like being 18. I remember saying fuck it, buying a pack of smokes(bc you couldnt smoke there) and smoking smokes while waiting for the bus, and like 3 people from the school saying come on Jenn come back to JDA. I was like hell no. They couldnt restrain, grab or force youthere that was in humane-not even thought of behavior.
OH- and about the kid who feced on himself and vomited and threw it on people- he was in my house in E7, his name was Jesse. He went through a faze....He was reaLLY depressed, and lost his pride for a whle in the corner, I guess he forgot who he was, he was so desperate to get out of Elan, he stooped sOOOO low!! Eventually, Jesse got a GM with a ring against Luke Thomas at our house, he got a few rounds of I thought was abuse! I cried in every RING i saw...I knew it JUST wasnt right! Tania Merrett and a few people used to be like Jenny, cheer get in it...I would sit in the dining room or cry. I remember there was a GM/RING when I was an Expeditor. It took me sooo long to get Expeditor from shot doiwn, and when I heard we were having a RING i was like OH SHIT>>cause I knew Id break. They made me cry. And I got shotdown. for not partiipating. Anyway- Jesse got a ring...i remember he begged for it to stop, and Tania Merett was right there on the side saying "NO NO...what are you gonna do to change blah blah" like 5-6 rounds I remember...Jesse got knocked up pretty bad...Luke was real mad too I remember!! It was just plain wrong....
And yes, they moved him to 3 I think. I think SYN knew him after. I remember when Jesse first gotn to 7, he was a nice kid, Elan just tore him up...to revert to what he did do there....
The other kid, I cant remember his name he was this kid who looked maybe Spanish or Indian, tall and REALLLLLLY skinny1!! like a boney tooth pick...He had short hair around his head like a bowl cut.
He came out with these acusations, that Peter Rowe had sexually molested him. Peter Rowe and Tania Merret cam in front of the house, and Peter Rowe put on the lamest tearey eye, I m so depressed, pitty party for him because he said this kid accused him, and his parents want an investigation and he wasnt able to work out of E7 till the charges were solved. Later--that kid said he made it up...Who knows??? Id believ it...if Peter Rowe did molest him....Eventually- they moved him too....Poor guy....
Then there was Shane. I liked Shane...He was SOOO nice,,,He reminded me of a Kurt Cobain. He was soo cool....He eventually made it in to the corner.. He didnt go to the bathroom or vomit on himself, or acuse anyone of sexual buse, he REFUSED to EAT!
That guy didnt eat ANYTHING FOR A WHOLE WEEK OR 2!!!! He said he wanted to die and starved himself laying down in the corner. Eventually the nurse had to come and they were going to put a tube in him. To feed hm, but his parents were worried and pulled him out...Lucky KID...
Then there was this kid Nick White who was from Maine....Someohow he got HOOKED UP...He was aloud to see his parents and family LIKE EVERY DAY!!! I was soo jealous..
and also----
there was this kid named: Ryan Montemerlo, he was from Massachusetts somewhere....
his parents would come all the time too...nd he would get special treatment visits outings all the TIME!!!
Anyways--
what else can I say? Mike should call him up and say"Hey I was intrested in sending my daughter there, although I was a little concerned because I heard the owner(Tom Bratter) was acussed of molesting a girl at JDA....
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#202 Post by Guest » Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:06 pm
--- Quote ---wow another useless story from that whacko bitch!
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#203 Post by E7haterJe » Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:08 pm
--- Quote ---Oh, SYN, what happened with the documentary thing?
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#204 Post by Guest » Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:20 pm
--- Quote ---Are you guys still coming to chicago for stories?
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#205 Post by Guest » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:03 am
--- Quote ---What kind of releases do you need and why?
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