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Sumner Hawley
« on: November 02, 2007, 08:59:00 AM »
Was anyone else molested by this freak?
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Re: Sumner Hawley
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2007, 09:13:24 AM »
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Was anyone else molested by this freak?

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ps.. anyone up for trolling the wiki site?

I think that lemonparty.org link would be much better on a pro-hyde wiki.

I'll be rooting for you. Leave poor old Sumner Hawley out of it, though. I don't want to besmirch his memory because of something someone overheard on the subway.


  My vote is to stop slander a old dead guy as long as we can still slander the living Hydies with impunity.


I think there's enough to indict Hyde on if we confine ourselves to our own personal experiences.
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Re: Sumner Hawley
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 09:57:01 AM »
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I think there's enough to indict Hyde on if we confine ourselves to our own personal experiences.

The case that I know of involves someone who is still a bit "out there" and will probably not be of much help to you.  PM me or email me privately if you want to know more details.

I think a lot of former students feel affection and/or protective feelings towards Sumner because -- despite all of his shortcomings -- he was one of the few Hyde faculty who was actually a bona fide intellectual, and because he was generally not the worst at eviscerating someone in Seminar/Discovery Group.

That said, I think a lot of his "kindness" was more rooted in fear for his own skin than people like to allow.  Regardless of intent, or even consciousness thereof, he was capable of disseminating some underhanded untruths when doing so would be of potential political advantage for him later on.  And the kind of white lie involving errors of omission, however egregious those omissions might be, was classic for him.
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Re: Sumner Hawley
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 10:15:03 AM »
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Was anyone else molested by this freak?



Are you saying you were?
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Re: Sumner Hawley
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2007, 07:59:10 AM »
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Are you saying you were?



hell yeah the old fuck fondled my junk!
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2007, 12:31:13 PM »
sounds to me like Mike and Sumner used to pull the train together.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2007, 01:33:59 PM »
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sounds to me like Mike and Sumner used to pull the train together.


I liked old Sumner. He read one of my English compositions to all his English classes, he was always supportive of my "different" interpretations of the literature we were studying, and during the senior graduation vote he was one of a few who voted that I deserved to graduate with a diploma. His votes of confidence were balm to my self-confidence amid the emotional bashings I received daily for two years from my teachers and peers of better character. I never interpreted Sumner's sympathy for me as sexual advances, and in fact I'm surprised at his rumored homosexuality. But I would have no problem with that if it were true. For me, Sumner will always be the model of what a Hyde teacher should be.

Mike
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2007, 08:13:28 PM »
im sure dubinsky would appreciate your wrintg one of those jobs for him too.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2007, 11:39:46 PM »
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im sure dubinsky would appreciate your wrintg one of those jobs for him too.


Larry Dubinsky and a few others in the senior leadership crowd would scoff and snigger at my often differing point of view in English class. I don't think Sumner much cared for Larry. Larry went on to become a Hyde School English teacher.

Mike
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2007, 02:25:45 AM »
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sounds to me like Mike and Sumner used to pull the train together.

I liked old Sumner. He read one of my English compositions to all his English classes, he was always supportive of my "different" interpretations of the literature we were studying, and during the senior graduation vote he was one of a few who voted that I deserved to graduate with a diploma. His votes of confidence were balm to my self-confidence amid the emotional bashings I received daily for two years from my teachers and peers of better character. I never interpreted Sumner's sympathy for me as sexual advances, and in fact I'm surprised at his rumored homosexuality. But I would have no problem with that if it were true. For me, Sumner will always be the model of what a Hyde teacher should be.

Mike


So You did pull the train.. did you get to play caboose or locomotive?


Besides the only good image of a Hyde teacher is a dead hyde teacher. So Hawly pushing up daisys actually does fill my ideal vision of a model hyde teacher.


Rest in hell you fucking old lech!
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2007, 02:40:34 AM »
Being gay in a homophobic place would have explained Sumner's encouragement of diversity, his sympathy for the underdog, and his empathy for minority points of view.

Incidentally, in one seminar we were asked to raise our hand if we had had at least one homosexual experience. Of us thirty or so students aged 14-18, nearly everyone raised their hand. It was a revelation for me, a real Kinsey report.

Mike
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2007, 03:07:49 AM »
Calling Mr. Hawley gay is an insult to the entire concept of homosexuality. Please don't compare that vile creature to any member of the homosexual community when in fact he might be guilty of being a pedophile.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2007, 03:10:41 AM »
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Calling Mr. Hawley gay is an insult to the entire concept of homosexuality. Please don't compare that vile creature to any member of the homosexual community when in fact he might be guilty of being a pedophile.


Sorry, Ursus. Your credibility is nil.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2007, 07:29:31 AM »
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Calling Mr. Hawley gay is an insult to the entire concept of homosexuality. Please don't compare that vile creature to any member of the homosexual community when in fact he might be guilty of being a pedophile.
Sorry, Ursus. Your credibility is nil.

Sorry, Mike, that was not me.  In fact, it seems almost as though you've been calling a lot of people "Ursus" lately when you don't agree with them or wish to disparage them.  This is not the "Big Balls" way.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2007, 07:30:17 AM »
Tweed and gayness go together like sushi and wasabi.  I am flattered to have a grand old fag like Sumnie counted among my promoters.  There is a special bond between an old english prof and a returning alum.  Ursus can fill you in on the details.

Kisses and a special squeeze,

Concept of Homosexuality
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