Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
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TheWho:
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Not really sure,specifically, I think it depends on the child. If the childs therapists feels he/she would benefit by staying longer at the present school in hopes the child will open up and respond then they may go that way. They could increase the number of therapy hours (one on one), introduce a different method. Maybe ease up on academics for awhile to give the child more freedom and less pressure to perform at school if that is an issue?..etc.
--- Quote --- Why do you continue to downplay and dismiss peoples claims about abuse in these places?
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I think the difficulty you are having with some of my responses is that I don?t feel the abuse is wide spread or systemic, whereas many people here do. The signs just are not there for me. Sure there have been kids abused. Kids are abused everywhere kids live and learn, but TBS are immensely safe compared to the public school system.
--- Quote --- But why is it important? Why does the health inspector need to come at all?
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Because it is important to the people. People get sick or food poisoning and some die and they rise up and demand their government regulate the industry. So it becomes the law and every restaurant that serves food needs to be inspected and their rating needs to be prominently displayed.
--- Quote --- I see. So then is it your beliefe that if you did not hear about or see something occur it did not happen?
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No, I don?t believe in all that ?If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there does it make a sound?.?. But If I told you someone shot the president and you turned on the TV and nothing was being aired about it on the national channels. I think you may doubt my statement.
If the news media gets a hold a good story they are not going sit on it.
Bob -- Do you have any data to add to the dataset? Do you want to move on to 2002- 2003?
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---Not really sure,specifically, I think it depends on the child. If the childs therapists feels he/she would benefit by staying longer at the present school in hopes the child will open up and respond then they may go that way. They could increase the number of therapy hours (one on one), introduce a different method. Maybe ease up on academics for awhile to give the child more freedom and less pressure to perform at school if that is an issue?..etc.
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All of which do nothing to address the fact that the kid is not ready for therapy.
--- Quote ---I think the difficulty you are having with some of my responses is that I don?t feel the abuse is wide spread or systemic whereas many people here do.The signs just are not there for me. Sure there have been kids abused. Kids are abused everywhere kids live and learn, but TBS are immensely safe compared to the public school system.
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Cindy pay very close attention to your own words and then answer the following question: Why do you continue to dismiss or down play peoples claims about abuse in these places?
If youre still confused ask yourself how it's possible to both accept peoples statements at face value and doubt the veracity of their statements at the same time.
--- Quote ---Because it is important to the people. People get sick or food poisoning and some die and they rise up and demand their government regulate the industry. So it becomes the law and every restaurant that serves food needs to be inspected and their rating needs to be prominently displayed.
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So youre saying that govt regulation can be a good thing for the customers?
--- Quote ---No, I don?t believe in all that ?If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there does it make a sound?.?. But If I told you someone shot the president and you turned on the TV and nothing was being aired about it on the national channels. I think you may doubt my statement.
If the news media gets a hold a good story they are not going sit on it.
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The difference is this, you would be hard pressed to find a person of average intelligence in this country who does not know one that we have a President but two who he is. On that same note the majority of people in this country know little to nothing about TBS's if they even know they exist at all. Add that to the fact that these places work very hard at covering up what does go on there and youre left with the end result.
Case in point, throughout our safety discussion I and others have thrown out numerous names of kids who have died in these places. Prior to this discussion had you ever heard of any of them?
Oh and...
--- Quote ---but TBS are immensely safe compared to the public school system.
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You dont know this to be true at all, this would be evidence of you reaching a concluscion before all the data has been examined. Proof of your agenda.
TheWho:
I guess I continue to answer all of your questions, but you wont reciprocate.
RobertBruce:
I guess so. Move on to another year if you want.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---I don?t feel the abuse is wide spread or systemic whereas many people here do.The signs just are not there for me.
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I am not saying abuse doesn?t exist, I am saying it isn?t out of whack with the rest of the world.
--- Quote --- So youre saying that govt regulation can be a good thing for the customers?
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Yes it definitely can be if adequately funded for both sides and implemented slowly and properly.
--- Quote --- but TBS are immensely safe compared to the public school system.
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I guess I should have said, ?From what I have seen, thus far??, it is my opinion??..?
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