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Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---if the parents didn?t receive the services they paid for and their kids were abused
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This is logically impossible. ("if not A" AND "if A")
TheWho:
--- Quote ---This is absurd. In what public or private school are the kids forbidden to speak to family for months on end? Name one.
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My point is there are varying degrees of restriction. Your child can not speak to you during school hours in many schools, except during lunch. When I went to school you couldn?t use the phone unless you went to the principal?s office and used his phone. Many summer camps restrict the use of phones, kids would go on outward bound trips for months and only communicate a few times back home.
--- Quote ---Uh, sounds good on paper, but when there's no mechanism to report abuse, the kid is shit out of luck. Also, the parents are manipulated so heavily by the program that if there kid complains to them, they are not believed. Often kids will not risk angering their parent or the program out of fear that they will be kept longer.
Your excuses just don't cut the mustard, Who.
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I am not making excuses, just indicating that if abuse occurred the kids would tell their parents, if at anytime when they got home, if that is where they felt safer. The relationship between parents and child is much more open and honest after the family goes thru some of these processes that these types of things would be openly discussed, just stands to reason. All it takes is a few incidents and the schools would close down under litigation. After 2 decades there is enough "lack of incidences evidence" to indicate that many of these places are safe. Something would have surfaced, after 20 years, if there was a systemic problem.
Oz girl:
Arent most kids at summer camp for 6 weeks at an absolute max? Dont most write unsensored as often as every day?
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---Arent most kids at summer camp for 6 weeks at an absolute max? Dont most write unsensored as often as every day?
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Its closer to 4 weeks these days I believe oz girl, and kids can sit in their bunks at night and write letters or write in their diary/journal. They typically have a phone somewhere available for emergencies, but the kids are restricted from using it usually.
A neighbor kid went away on a teen outward bound type trip to Chile for 2 months and I dont think he could call more than once a week.
I know these may seem abusive/ restrictive to some but I was subjected to the same thing when I was young and I think many other parents were too. I think it is viewed as more of a hardship today because of all the cell phones kids have and the ability to call people 24/7. But not having a phone really isn?t abusive.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---But not having a phone really isn?t abusive
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Ya know, Who, you run around making excuses (and saying theu're not excuses, BTW) for programs all day every day and the way you do it is to make utterly false analogies and then boil it down to a stupid conclusion not related to the premises of the statement you are trying to invalidate.
See above. We were talking about coerced "treatment" in a facility that the kids cannot leave, separated by distance and design, unable to write letters without being forced to write what tha facility says to, no telephone, no calls to home allowed, and no mechanism by which to report abuse.
And this is what your response is???
--- Quote ---But not having a phone really isn?t abusive
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What fucking planet are you on? You really are an asshole, you know that?
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