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TheWho:

--- Quote ---100%? Cite that. You clearly haven't studied this industry.
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??.ASR is proud to be able to state that 100 percentof its students who graduate high school are able to pursue higher education at the college or university of their choice.?



--- Quote ---You sh0uld spend more time reading here and less time typing about things you know nothing about. There are a few who post here who are persuing a degree in the legal field and hope to use that education against the industry.
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I read quite a bit here, Deborah.  If there are a few here on Fornits, imagine how many are out there in power positions at the height of their careers.  If they felt they were abused, they would have done something decades ago.

Deborah:
Nice try, but you weren't refering to ASR specifically. You were talking about tens of thousands of kids who've graduated programs. Cite that.

And if ASR says it, it must be true, huh?  :rofl:

TheWho:

--- Quote ---Nice try, but you weren't refering to ASR specifically. You were talking about tens of thousands of kids who've graduated programs. Cite that.
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I thought everyone here is of the mindset that all TBS?s are alike?  You mean there could be differences?  Some good some bad?   That seems novel and refreshing for fornits?.okay my bad?.. based on the assumption that not all TBS?s are alike we would have to conclude that some are at 100% and others are lower than that.


--- Quote ---And if ASR says it, it must be true, huh?  
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You have used their web site many times as reference to support your posts.  Lets not impose a double standard.

RobertBruce:
Cindy you are using your limited experience with ASR as a basis for the entire industry. This makes no sense.

No more sense then you using your own limited experience with ASR as a basis for every kid in the school. You have no idea if kids were abused there or not, all you know is that none of the kids you spoke to claimed to be abused.

Nothing more. I think you would find alot less resistiance if you would stop claiming your personal experiences to be the end all thing when it comes to this industry.

For example in your claims that any kids being abused at their respective facility would be able to report the abuse is untrue.

Keep in mind that at HLA and in many similar facilities kids are prevented from talking to their parents on the phone for the first month.

Whatsmore all outgoing communication is monitered and censored. No reports of abuse are allowed to be communicated. During this month the parents are inundated with reports that:

A. Little Johnny is fine

and

B. He will probably tell you he is being abused, don't believe him.

Over and over and over again parents are told this. When the child finally does get to talk to his parents a staffer is standing by to hang up the phone at any hint of "manipulation" or reporting of abuse. Later when the child is allowed to visit his parents, they are told repeatedly again that the child will lie and manipulate and any reports of such should be reported to the staff. Once the parents do so the child is of course punished.

Later on when the child finally escapes either through leaving on his own, being pulled, or graduating, more often then not most of them don't want to even think about what they went through, let alone try and prove that it all happened. You'll find this similar circumstance in many rape victims. They dont want to go through the ordeal of having to reveal what happened to them and face their attacker so they opt for simply letting it go and moving on.


You may scoff at all of this if you choose but remember I suffered at the hands of this industry youre claiming doesnt abuse kids.

I know I was abused.

Troll Control:

--- Quote ---I think you would find alot less resistiance if you would stop claiming your personal experiences to be the end all thing when it comes to this industry.

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Well, Robert, this is the nut of it, isn't it?  When someone's ego is SO BIG that they feel like if they don't know something, then that something never was...

TheWho has an absolutely gigantic, yet fragile ego that he needs to stroke every day by one, never ever admitting he was wrong about anything, and two, to belittle anyone who says different.

This is not a "normal" person, Robert.

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