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Nihilanthic:

--- Quote ---the 1st time they said something bad was going down, i'd have pulled them out of there, i don't believe in not taking kids seriously when they say bad shit's happening, I'd rather get them the hell out and then take it up with whoever....knowing my kids are safe while I fight it out
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I want that on my wall! Signed by you, preferrably. And send a few copies to Lon W. and Ken K, while you're at it... maybe even a Doctor P!

At any rate, speaking from experience... the best way to get someone to start making decisions is to.. let them make decisions. Tell them to get a fucking job and try their hand at life the way they are, and say if they want to come back and go to college after a few years being broke, (if you are willing to help that is...) that you will.

Personally, my problem with being pushed into college was just that. I needed to get time to spend on ME becuase I had basically gone from being a socially inept elementary/middle/highschool student to the same half-person trying to do college... and it wasn't cutting it. I had zero motivation half the time and I needed to get out, make money, meet people, and LIVE LIFE... not just scribble and toil away for four more years.

Maybe they just need to get out and try it on their own, their way, have actual empowerment and independance (and autonomy) and then when they see how it is being uneducated for themself, they might turn around. When you're the one making the decisions and screwing up all on your own, you'll yourself realize what someone else told you but you couldn't accept long ago. Plus I'm sure they'd rather get a nice cushy office job and rake in money, god knows with that awful tax rate you have so little spending money over there  :lol:

exhausted:
They're going to have to, they're ot going to doss round here all day sponging off me because they wouldn't listen, they'll have to learn the hard way but whatever it is they do, I will be proud of them if it doesn't involve taking drugs and mugging old ladies to finance it

Nihilanthic:
Considering the only 'right' decision a lot of programs ever made was the exit plan isolating them from their parents who sent them off in the first place... maybe you should just do that.

Having to do it and learn yourself vs being coersed in some way or told is a HUGE difference!

exhausted:
I've come to the conclusion that al I can do is guide them, I told them tonight that I cant make them do anything, they have to want to, but once they've fucked up, it's THEIR fuck up, they'd be ruining their lives not mine, so it's up to them to make the decision to make good now before its too late or face the consequences whatever they may be later on in life

Well at least it didn't make them angry for a change, they just said okay, and came told me they love me

Nihilanthic:
The thing is they can't really permanantly fuck up thier lives unless they do something worth a long prison term or life imprisonment in the UK... and apparently that isn't the easiest thing to do. Now, here, passing a joint can get you what amounts to a life sentance, but I digress.

Let em go be stupid, and they'll eventually settle down! Everyone needs to run wild at some point in their life, right?

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