I have some insight into the Seed/HLA matters Richard, only from the perspective of being at HLA for 4 years and being married to one of its first employees for 7 yrs, and being currently married to a former Seed attendee. There is no connection to the Seed and HLA. The reason that question got brought up was Ginger assumed from a statement I made that there was a connection, due to the fact that my current husband attended the Seed in 1971-1972 in Ft. Lauderdale. I met him over a year and a half after my divorce from the employee of HLA and they didn't know each other, nor had any idea about each others schools. It was a coincidence, nothing more. The owner of HLA does not have any connections to the Seed program, nor has he in the past. I have no connections to the Seed program other than being married to one of its former students. From what I have been told about the Seed's techniques, methods, operations, and motives, it was nothing whatsoever like HLA. I suppose all programs that deal with teens who have issues have some similarities in some of its psychiatric aspects, but other than some coincidences in general psychiatry, they arent connected in philosophy or ownership.