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JaLong:
I agree with you anon. I was angry at first that my parents hijacked me into the seed. Yet lo and behold, I learned somethings in there. I too walked away with some tools, and that helped, along with therapy, to find me and grow. I know now being taken off of the streets and put into the seed did save my life. Most of my old "druggie friends" are now dead, and 99 percent from drug overdoses. I am still alive and living a happy life.
 Yes, there are two sides to every coin, yet most of my experience in the seed from 72-73 wasn't all that horrible. I had to look my demon right in the eyes, because he was on staff. So is life. If life were just a bowl of cherries and great, I know I would have never grown up. On this forum one size doesn't fit all... agree! There are people who show no tolerance for the pro-seed, and a whole bunch of anti-seed. Yet aren't those differences is what makes the world go round... :smile: [ This Message was edited by: JaLong on 2006-01-01 16:21 ]

Anonymous:
WOW!

Are all Seedlings this torqued up?

I fixed my life because of the experience I had at the Seed. Maybe I would have anyway, maybe not. The fact is, I'm better for it. What others did with their experience was not and is not my responsibility or concern. Whatever soaps were going on with the staff was not my concern. I was there to fix me, not participate in a larger society.
Curiosity piqued my desire to go looking for some grads. I expected to find people who were mildy successful and mostly happy with their life. Does this fit any of you?
Neil

Anonymous:
I notice none of you who responded to my post attempted to answer any of the questions I posed there. Avoiding something?
Still copping out?

SurRobinHood:
I noticed none of you who responded to my post attempted to answer any of the questions I posed there. Avoiding something? Still copping out? I admited it did help some people but at what cost? It was not a matter of choosing to look at the bright side of life. We weren't offered any choices. If it helped you great but what about the others? You wonder how many succeded after the seed but do you wonder how many people were drivin over the edge and started cutting people into little pieces with mansons buddies? How many suicides from lack of self esteem because they bought those tainted goods that said they were worthless without the seed in their life? How many couldnt live for themselves so they joined a more destructive cult after they couldnt live up to the seeds standards and were rejected by their families? I am more than happy to see that there were some positive affects on some people. Are you willing to see that the opposite is also true?

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-01 19:02:00, SurRobinHood wrote:

You wonder how many succeded after the seed but do you wonder how many people were drivin over the edge and started cutting people into little pieces with mansons buddies?

I am more than happy to see that there were some positive affects on some people. Are you willing to see that the opposite is also true?
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--- End quote ---



Sur Robin,
I feel you are aiming at my head and not the apple there upon....

To be accurate, I said "I expected to find mildly successful..." grads. I certainly didn't expect to find hordes of ruined lives and I would be quite dismayed to find that what you say is true.
Are your statements, about the demise of so many grad's lives, opinion based on anecdotal evidence or fact based on controlled surveys and historical data? If there are such studies that are published, it would be interesting to read them.
Call me selfish, blind, irresponsible or whatever but researching the outcome of Seed Grads is not one of the pertinent issues in my life. It?s curiosity at best.
Neil

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