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Anonymous:
Good to find some fellow Seed Grads. I'm part of the Naples contingent.
It seems like there is a lot of pain left in the folks I find here. The most dangerous part of the Seed for me was driving Alligator Alley twice on Wednesdays and then again on Friday & Sunday.
For me, The Seed made the difference. I needed a slap in the face and a kick in the ass. For those of us who were attitude problems with mild drug issues, that is exactly what we needed. When I left the program, I moved on with my life struggling with the same issues that got me on the front row but I was given great tools to use to keep moving ahead.
I blew my highschool career but becasue of the impact of the seed, I was able to salvage something of an education.
I haven't been tuned into the bad shit that has happend to some of the other grads and I'm sad for those. I'm glad I went to the Seed. I'm dissapointed that I needed to but I thank my parents for doing something to shake me off my distructive path. I don't know that I could do the same for my kids. I'm lucky to have two kids that are smart and well balanced. My parental issues are the classes they are taking, not trying to figure out where the seeds in their pockets came from... I certainly deserve worse.

Cheers & Happy New Year,
Jesus Christ! 32 years ago? Is that right? Holy Shit!
Neil@MooreStudios.com

Anonymous:
Cheers back at you

Anonymous:
Welcome to the forum!



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For me, The Seed made the difference. I needed a slap in the face and a kick in the ass. For those of us who were attitude problems with mild drug issues, that is exactly what we needed.
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Er, speak for yourself there pal.  I Think many of us would take exception to that particular perception.


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 When I left the program, I moved on with my life struggling with the same issues that got me on the front row.

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No suprise there.  Most of us did.  The "magic" seemed to wear off rather quick.



--- Quote --- but I was given great tools to use to keep moving ahead.
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The steps and signs?    I disagree wholeheartedly. Most people took these "tools" and believed they were powerless and doomed without the seed.  I see a hugely negative value in these set of 'tools' in or out of context. What about the rest of the 'tools'? Learning to keep a human captive? Humiliation? Degradation, ass-kissing? Conformaty?  Self-loating? black and white thinking? Hero-worship?
 
Just what "tool" you got from that nuthouse is valuable?  


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I blew my highschool career...but becasue of the impact of the seed, I was able to salvage something of an education...

 I'm dissapointed that I needed to but I thank my parents for doing something to shake me off my distructive path. I don't know that I could do the same for my kids. I'm lucky to have two kids that are smart and well balanced. My parental issues are the classes they are taking, not trying to figure out where the seeds in their pockets came from... I certainly deserve worse.


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This just never seems to give me a little surprise.  People proclaim somehow they "needed" the seed because they did a little drugs and were somehow 'doomed' because of this and their general fuck upedness.

Then, lo and behold... they admit they continued to use and have the same "issues" after being released, they acknowledge  their education took a rousing fucking. In spite of this non-result, They thank their parents for doing this to them but shudder at the thought of doing it to their own kids who are....drum roll...very much like they were with the seeds of death,insanity or jail rolling around in their pocket.  Is this reality we speak of here?

Did the seed really convince people they were that fucked up before 'treatment' and so much different than their own children?  That they didn't possess the goodness and intelligence of their own children, and that they were bound to self destruct without being locked away in a warehouse full of singing hitlers?

SurRobinHood:
We are constanly going on in these forums about how one size does not fit all. It obviosly does fit a few but if one child was harmed then I think that is one too  many. How can anyone equate the seed as being a saviour to them if it did so at the destruction of others? Were you so important that others should be sacrificed to make your life better? Just because you were too dull and unimaginative to help yourself? Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once and the cookie cutter apraoch to therapy will everyonce in a while find a cookie that fits it. I'm sure some bad people died when we saturation bombed iraq but was it worth all the innocent lives that were lost? So it was with the seed and it's spawn and continues to this day.

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Life may be short but it is also very wide, go around the yucky parts when you can.[ This Message was edited by: SurRobinHood on 2006-01-01 09:49 ]

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-01 09:46:00, SurRobinHood wrote:

"We are constanly going on in these forums about how one size does not fit all. It obviosly does fit a few but if one child was harmed then I think that is one too  many. How can anyone equate the seed as being a saviour to them if it did so at the destruction of others? Were you so important that others should be sacrificed to make your life better? Just because you were too dull and unimaginative to help yourself? Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once and the cookie cutter apraoch to therapy will everyonce in a while find a cookie that fits it. I'm sure some bad people died when we saturation bombed iraq but was it worth all the innocent lives that were lost? So it was with the seed and it's spawn and continues to this day.



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Life may be short but it is also very wide, go around the yucky parts when you can.[ This Message was edited by: SurRobinHood on 2006-01-01 09:49 ]"

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  I believe it's a state of mind, as to WHAT EACH person does with their experience.  I could look back and complain about being "locked up" for a year or whatever, or I could choose to use some of the tools offered and get something out of it.  I choose to use it to my benefit instaed of being a "victim".
  Wish more people would.  Life is better that way.

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