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GregFL:
St Pete had a doctor, but not coincidentially he had a kid in the program, he was one of the rabid parents and he rubber stamped every questionable case. My father asked me to go see him after the seed and my dad and I had a major falling out over it. He set the appointment and I didn't go.
OverLordd:
Its very intresting to look at this and see what is being said. This John Underwood character defends the program, yet each person keeps coming up with experiance after experiance, and he cannot defend against it. Flordia during the 70's must of been a place full of coruption and fear. this is what I am lead to believe by what is being said. Even the posts by Underwood makes me beieve this.
JaLong:
Hey Greg, No you read that correctly. I was 14 yrs old and my best friend Linda who was staff in July of 73 has a brother Bruce who was also staff. He and 4 other guys gang raped me at their house. They were not staff there for long- too long for me. We did get together about 4 yrs ago, and I told him he F'd up my life. He started crying, as I was, and apologized. Then I could forgive him and put it away. It was a very healing experience for the both of us. But in the seed, having to see him every day was horrible. Especially when he came up to the clinic door and said,"I'm sorry". Not heartfelt at that. Thanks for asking. Ya know how they say "what goes around, comes around"? Bruce is the only one alive out of the five. I didn't wish them death. It was their choices to continue to do some pretty hard dope. God bless them.
Julie
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-22 07:06:00, JaLong wrote:
"Hey Greg, No you read that correctly. I was 14 yrs old and my best friend Linda who was staff in July of 73 has a brother Bruce who was also staff. He and 4 other guys gang raped me at their house. They were not staff there for long- too long for me. We did get together about 4 yrs ago, and I told him he F'd up my life. He started crying, as I was, and apologized. Then I could forgive him and put it away. It was a very healing experience for the both of us. But in the seed, having to see him every day was horrible. Especially when he came up to the clinic door and said,"I'm sorry". Not heartfelt at that. Thanks for asking. Ya know how they say "what goes around, comes around"? Bruce is the only one alive out of the five. I didn't wish them death. It was their choices to continue to do some pretty hard dope. God bless them.
Julie"
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Bruce! This is the guy that did my intake strip search, and your right, he just disapeared one day. About 17...skinny, preppy looking.
Yes Jalong I remember him. That name kept coming in my brain but no one else remembered him.
I am so sorry you went thru that on all levels and were continually abused by having to face down this guy while under restraint and captivity.
If this doesn't shine a spotlight on a very big flaw in the "kids helping kids" treatment model, I doubt anything will get thru.
Here we have criminals , rapists and drug addicts, several months later, in charge of the captivity of young children. Also, these same children were sent home to disfunctinal families where they were locked up, and often threatened and abused there.
Talk about a violence charged atmosphere, Jalong, no wonder you developed PTSD. Unreal story.
Ft. Lauderdale:
Yes he can and yes he did. Read it again. He said he never hit fufu or fuelaw or what ever his name is.
It's amazing to me, how long an ego bruise can last. I guess its hard to heal.
I was involved with the seed for a very long time.
I never saw any physical abuse. (anything is possible I must admit, but I was in the thick of it for a long time and NEVER saw it.) I can hear echoes of people saying violence of any kind will not be tollerated. I remember someone being asked to leave because they got into someones face. Yes I must admit a rap session or two may have gotten a little harsh and sometimes a little too vulgar for my taste (I can't tell you how long ago that was maybe 25 or 30 yrs ago.) and that was stopped and never happened again.
Greg I must admit, I kinda like you. You are clever some what witty and likeable and I can even tell you have a heart (most of the time) :grin:
My god I don't get your vendetta.
Antigen is another story.
I loved the Seed. I have alot of fond memories.
I always will. If I had anything to do with you I gave it my all and I cared. I gave a shit as to what happened to you. No I'm not a seed slave or moonie type. I'm pretty independent and always have been. I also was never a favorite son. I guess I did "get it" as far as I'm concerned. :grin:
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