You seem to think all the kids were criminals. You seem to think just because some judge said this place or prison for your actions that they are criminals. I wonder how many of them had a trial by jury. I wonder how many of them were railroaded. Look I'm not defending them, and I'm not saying anything they did was ok. What I am saying is that I do not believe that the large majority were given a fair trial, which tends to be the case for minors in this country.
You claim these facilities brain-wash people (you even claim they have brain-washed me!!!)
Yeah, we do say that, but I'm starting to think not so much for this facility, just maybe physically abusive. The people's tax dollars won?t pay for BM?ing a group of children I wouldn?t think.
Overlord, you have some strange ideas for consequences. Hopefully, you never consider running for President; our nation will be overrun with medicated criminals creating more problems for the INNOCENT!! They'd be free to harm abuse and prey on more innocent rather than serving time for their actions in an instructional facility.
You don't seem to understand. I don?t like criminals, they are bad, simple as that, but what I don?t like is a kid being called a criminal. I wonder how many of the kids were just sent there for property damage or drug offenses. And I continue to ask how many of them had a fair by jury trial. If they are convicted, so be it, but don?t up and send them to get yelled at by some dis-honored military group. Again I say, I want a trial, and I support the current prisons, because they are run nothing like these abuse centers. Oh and daughter, thank you for giving me the power to pick your login name for you. Also, I will run for president, and when I get it, all government funding will be removed from hell holes like this.
So we should have counseled and medicated Sadam Hussein, then too, right??
You seem to think that I don't support consequences for ones actions. That?s far from the truth, but being PT'ed to death is not a consequence, its murder. And personally I think Saddam should of been shot in his hole, thank God they didn?t hmm, or justice would not be served and innocent people would be denied their justice.
He had been disrespectful all day to my father and other staff members
I would be to if I had a bunch of dis-honored punks leading me around all day.
After being controlled,
You mean physically restrained by people 3 times his size right?
He had been placed on suicide watch earlier and had his shoelaces removed for his security because whether you agree so or not, these guys did care about these boys
Wait... that makes no since... they care so they take his shoe laces... they don?t stop him and talk to him about how life is worth living and yeah it sucks but he will get out of here eventually... they just take his shoe laces? That is foolish.
So you're military too, great. My father and the staff members at ABR didn't treat these teens like animals.
Yes, yes they did, when a person is running for his life like an animal, and they are in prison without a trial and no extreme circumstances, and denied their human rights. That is living like a animal.
You have to earn respect though; you give it in order to receive some in return.
Along the same lines what did your father do to deserve respect? Seemingly nothing at all, so why should the kids respect him?
I defend ABR while the rest of you point your fingers at it, solely blaming them.
You don't seem to get it, we are not solely blaming ABR, we are blaming the mentality of people that kids need to be fixed, look around the forum, you will see the blame spread around plenty.
I'd like to know what actions make me so disrespectful
At the top of the list is your disrespect for other American citizens and your disrespect for their human rights.
God allowed his death to happen for a reason.
Wow... you just lost the last vestiges of any respect I had for you as a human being, you are a animal, you are nothing but a hateful angry animal after everyone to defend your failure of a father. God does not let people die!!! God does not murder people! God is love, God is attention, and God is care. God would never do such a thing to children. You are a heretic, and if I hear you say anything like that ever again I will make it my goal to rip your argument apart whenever I see you post.