Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Carlbrook
Nihilanthic:
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"If a kid does not voluntarily AGREE (different than "want") to go to Carlbrook, the school will not accept them.
It has nothing to do with not being willing to parent your kids. In fact, at a certain point, the best and most loving thing you can do for your kid is to admit that you can no longer help him or her and select a good program.
Carlbrook does not recommend one wilderness program. SUWS and Second Nature are frequently chosen by the families, but there are many others."
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Ginger signed herself into Straight 20 years ago. That was not willing. You can make people agree to something with coersion. Im really not impressed.
And yeah, abdicate to a program! Plug your ears with your fingers and tra la la la la all your damned life and make them spew seminar-speak like this anonymous Carlbrook graduate!
I believe that when I die I shall rot, and nothing of my ego will survive. I am not young, and I love life. But I should scorn to shiver with terror at the thought of annihilation. Happiness is none the less true happiness because it must come to an end, nor do thought and love lose their value because they are not everlasting.
--Bertrand Russell, British philosopher, educator, mathemetician, and social critic
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Anonymous:
We are not trying to convince you of anything. We are trying to counter your uneducated rantings.
If you run away from Carlbrook you will be sent back to wilderness or sent to a different program- it's up to your parents. Or-you can go home. Two kids from our group ran away and were found in a few days. They went to wilderness and then came back to Carlbrook. They wound up being some of the strongest kids and one stayed to complete high school.
Carlbrook grad
Anonymous:
I'd like to know when the trend to send kids to wilderness then straight to a locked boarding school began?
And who is pushing (oops, I mean selling) WT as the first step? The Ed cons? The program referral agents (the ones paid by the programs), the schools themselves?
I know program parents are some of the most gullible buffoons around, but you'd think they would smell the money at some point ... before they bought the farm?
Anonymous:
Can you read? Carlbrook is not locked. Many of the kids are already in wilderness before the parents even learn about Carlbrook as a next step option. Wilderness is a frequent first step taken by desperate parents whose teens need immediate help in a very different environment from that in the home community. After the kids detox and spend some time getting at their core issues in wilderness, they are ready to move into a school environment such as Carlbrook or Oakley.
Nihilanthic:
The threat of going to a 'tougher' TBS if you run from carlbrook is called 'coersion'. There need not be a lock on a door if the alternative is worse.
Plus, calling wilderness a first step without qualification is ridiculous. How is it therapeutic? Who said it was a necessary first step? Who said everyone needs it? Who said someone cant just go into a regular program? Who said you need any of this except the people selling it?
How does Carlbrook provide this therapy? How does it help people? What kind of power do the older students have over the younger ones? What kind of punishments are there, especially ones doled out by the older students? How are the children made to go to through the seminars? (workshops).
The present system is among the most impractical imaginable, if the facilitation of learning is your aim.
--Neil Postman and Charles Weingartner
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