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Carlbrook
Anonymous:
My neighbor's son is currently in a wilderness program in Georgia. They are looking at schools for him (emotional growth) for after wilderness. Does anyone know anything about Carlbrook School in Virginia? There doesn't seem to be much info about it on these boards. The boy is 16 1/2 and stopped going to school, was doing drugs, stealing cars, breaking and entering etc. Thanks for any info. They are also looking at Swift River and Oakley.
Nihilanthic:
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Why the program after the wilderness camp, exactly? seems kind of asinine... hes a kid, not a twice-baked potato. But, well, Cynically thats the whole point - break their will with forced marching, and drill submission into their head with a lock-in program.
Anywho, 'emotional growth' doesnt come from being in a program, it comes from growing up. In other words 'emotional growth' really doesnt exist, its just a euphamism for behavior modification programs where the apparent but thinly-veiled objective is to break the child and program into them whatever you want, which is usually submitting to all authority, behaving as told to by parents or program staffers, and damn the consequences and damage to the child himself or herself!
You're not gonna find any reccomendations for programs in this forum so much as being recommended to pull them OUT of them and not waste your money, and obviously get him out of that environment and back in the real world so he can grow up without being brainwashed in some large group awareness training (LGA) like Straight's raps, or WWASPS seminars, or CEDU propheets, or whatever the programs you might find use.
If I were you Id tell them to look at http://www.ISACCORP.org and seriously read all thats there. Sure, the boy has problems... but this whole industry isnt about fixing them or providing therapy, its about locking them up and making the parent feel better.
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Anonymous:
I understand the general tone on this forum is to bash all programs.
What I am looking for is SPECIFIC information about Carlbrook- any graduates on this board?
Nihilanthic:
Havent heard of it.
So, I googled it. I got.... the carlbrook school itself as the first hit (merely by typing in carlbrook and hitting search, good job getting high on the directory there!) and some struggling teens links. That on http://www.strugglingteens.com
So, its obviously gone through the usual internet marketing thing, no surprise here.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... 0/np4.html
When I read that link, it seems to be just another TBS, except it at least STATES that it offers actual academia. Here's the actual script from that page:
Operating under the legal organization Education Management Services LLC, these individuals are opening a new school in southern Virginia for bright, underachieving adolescents between the ages of 15 and 18 who have been challenging conventions and questioning authority. They will be using a 16-month educational model ?where academic excellence and character development are integrated.? They anticipate the typical student will achieve two years of academic work in their 16-month stay.
The new student will start with a month long wilderness adventure to prepare him or her for the time on the campus. The school ?operates under the assumption that both negative and positive behaviors are a function of learned experience, reinforcement, modeling and imitation, and an individual?s value and expectations of success.?
A primary aspect of the school is the positive peer culture, which consists of small groups of approximately 12 students each, with each group having members of ?varying degrees of seniority.? A very important element of their philosophy is Honor, defined as ?the reconciliation of one?s conduct with his or her conscience.? The concept of Honor will be an ?overarching concept that incorporates all of the values the School wishes to impress upon its students.? As a result, ?the School will avoid reliance on ?rules? or ?agreements? to establish acceptable standards of student conduct and instead require that all students adhere to the School?s Honor Code.?
?The school, which will be run by an administrative Board of Regents, is currently interviewing additional candidates for faculty and support positions.?
Well, usual marketing fluff, its just like everything else. This "honor code" could be one of many things, perhaps a coersive thing, or the whole unwritten rules mindfuck, or it could be an ACTUAL honor code.
Anyway, time to stop rambling and give an opinion on it, cos thats all I can really give.
POSITIVE: It states everyone involved with it clearly, which is a sign that theres a less of a remote chance that it actually is a school.
NEGATIVE: Well, to quote it from the horse's ass itself, (struggling teens) -- A primary aspect of the school is the positive peer culture, which consists of small groups of approximately 12 students each, with each group having members of ?varying degrees of seniority.?
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-27 11:17:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
for bright, underachieving adolescents between the ages of 15 and 18 who have been challenging conventions and questioning authority...
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...just like those long haired hippie terrorists, Jefferson, Washington, Tomas Paine, Lyssander Spooner. No problem, we know just how to nip that type of deviance in the bud!
If you want specifics, do a google search or set an alert and bump this topic w/ new (or newly found) info from time to time. You may find the names of individuals w/ reported history in the industry. And, w/ any luck, ppl w/ firsthand exp and interest in the place will come along.
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