Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
Typical Day at Sagewalk
Anonymous:
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"I guess the point I tried to make is that maybe the parents that choose programs feel its a better choice than throwing a kid out on his ass. They probably see it as putting a kid in the hands of "experts" and the more expensive the better. And I dont know about you but Ive made some pretty shitty choices in the friends department. No better way to get your kid out of the grip of "the bad kids" than to send him off. And I probably would have turned out different if my parents hadnt been wrapped up in fucking up their own relationship and had spent more time with me."
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So what you're saying is they should have paid more attention to you? I think that pretty sums up what a lot of us are suggesting. The act of shipping kids away, to a place where you rarely if ever speak to them, for months on end, is a huge indication of just how much effort they are willing to put into their kids. I know, people are going to say....but the kids were HORRIBLE, I was AWFUL... well, I doubt that's true. Probably you were really unhappy with the situation you were in. And that was the real issue, not how "awful" you think you were.
Anonymous:
If we lived in a perfect world parents would have lots of time to spend with their children and children would want to spend time with their parents. And I know people that have families like that. One of them is a third generation trust fund family and another has made lots of concessions. One car and one parent working, thrift store shopping, eat out once every couple months, no cable, no cell phones, dial-up cable connection and one computer that everyone shares. Those are two extremes... lots of families have two working parents, lots of fast food, long commute times to work and little time left for families. I may not necessarily agree with programs but Im trying to understand why parents make the choice. Im going out on a limb and saying its because they love their children and are hoping to have a better relationship with them. And some of the time this isnt the outcome.
And youre right, I wasnt a happy teenager and I didnt have happy parents but they loved me and did the best they could with what they had. I guess Im a bit of an optimist and would like to believe that most parents are doing the best they can too.
Anonymous:
Well, we all know what they say about good intentions so I won't go there...
but it seems you are suggesting you wish your parents had sent you to a program? OH BOY are you on the wrong forum. :rofl:
Anonymous:
The bigger the problem, the bigger the budget to solve it. And one of the only things money cant buy is time. And how many kids are guilty of holding the money card over their parents head... especially kids in split families?
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-28 15:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
I may not necessarily agree with programs but Im trying to understand why parents make the choice. Im going out on a limb and saying its because they love their children and are hoping to have a better relationship with them. And some of the time this isnt the outcome.
And youre right, I wasnt a happy teenager and I didnt have happy parents but they loved me and did the best they could with what they had. I guess Im a bit of an optimist and would like to believe that most parents are doing the best they can too.
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An optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. A pesimist knows it. There's another common theme that I see a lot. I suppose it goes back to having had very old parents; my dad having come up poor in the depression and fought WWII. In his day, if you worked hard, were honest and generally of good character, you could raise 6 kids in reasonable comfort w/ mom playing fulltime housewife.
That's no longer true. The truth is if you do your homework, make good grades, stay out of trouble, you too can take you BA along as you have your balls busted looking for non-existant work as a line cook. But don't turn a buck at the only growth industry other than prisons and behavior mod scams! No! That would be wrong!
Most adults are simply not willing to discuss this stark reality w/ kids ta' day. Fact is there is no particularly compelling reason to color inside the lines anymore. If your kid is pissed off and frustrated by that, it's not a disorder in your kid. It's what we used to call prescience.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
-- Albert Einstein
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