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--- Quote ---On 2005-07-31 11:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"OK- I get it.  You weren't ever in therapy.  It's all clear now. You need to be! Yep, we failed as parents.  I'll admit that. It's a tough job these days. I did many things wrong as a parent. I set a bad example, I raged, I spent too much time at my job.  Having failed, we turned to professional help for our kid and ourselves. It worked. My kid is doing great. He isn't wasting his time moaning and groaning about losing a year of his life. He's taken some of the tools and moved on. I guess you don't believe in seeking professional medical care, either.  "

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Why do you think I need therapy?  I don't understand...

You are the one who, by your own admission, had (or has) the copious list of problems enumerated in your post, not me.  

Is it because you feel small and weak when someone points out your own admitted failures?  

If so, don't you agree that you need to look at that rather than pointing the finger at me, someone who does not have these problems or exhibit these maladaptive behaviors?

And, once again, let me correct your fallacious logic.  I DO believe in professional medical care.  Now, please tell me how your child was helped by medical professionals.

I already know how he WASN'T helped by unlicensed, unregulated, unaccredited pseudo-therapeutic hacks, so we can skip that explanation.

Congratulations, though, on your epiphany that you made terrible mistakes rearing your child.  Now if you could just admit that quitting on him and sending him away with strangers to be fixed was ONE of those mistakes, I'd say you're on your way to a meaningful breakthrough.

In the meantime, you should stop trying to advise me on my own mental health.  Remember, you screwed your kid up and then shipped him out to god-knows-where because you are feeble-minded and inadequate, not me.

Take care, and good luck with your therapy!

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-07-31 10:01:00, Anonymous wrote:



Do you really think we, as parents, are stupid enough to just hand our kids over without knowing a lot about these programs and others who have been through them?



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 Answer: Yes.

Anonymous:
There's been a real sea change on this site since Brat Camp appeared

Same faces mocking/attacking all programs and schools---but lots and lots of posts from parents and others who seem to have a more positive view of (atleast some of)these interventions.

A person only has to look at the archives to see the ever increasing number of positive posts, must make y'all think that the barbarians are really at the gates!!

Interesting thing is maybe the advent of Brat Camp---which I personally loathe as intrusive to these kids'privacy---may have the same energizing effect on the viewing population at large in terms of acceptance of these kinds of programs and schools

Anonymous:
I was not totally against these programs when I first heard about them.  However, I have always been against the show.  The name "Brat Camp" says it all.  It is nothing less than child abuse for parents to allow their kids to be exploited on television.  I'm sure the producers, who are making millions off the suffering of others, don't care.  But the parents, viewers, and the LAW should know better.  To put a sexually abused child on television and let the world watch his/her pain for entertainment is simply another form of abuse. There are excellent (and probably cheaper) PRIVATE programs offered by hospitals around the country.

As for the programs themselves, I was unaware that anyone had died as a result of the treatment allowed at these camps.  Where are the police??????  Why aren't these MURDERERS in jail?????????????  If a parent spanked their child for misbehaving in public, society and the law would react more harshly than they obviously have to these programs.  This is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!

Deborah:
Because they're 'just' misbehaving teens. Abuse, Death... all justified, because after all, they'd be 'deadorinjail' otherwise. Parents and society in general fear angry teens, possibly more so than adult perpetrators.

We live in a violent culture that gets off on punishing people who will not buck up, accept or settle for never having their real needs met. This industry is but one ugly manifestation of a very anti-life society, Matrix.

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