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  I'm sorry, I try to steer clear of arguements on this site, and if what I say starts one then, oh well.


You started one with this forum and the childish demented lie about Alex trying to jump over a bridge to be able to talk to you. Then your mother makes something up about you dreaming about it. OMG even my 3 year old could have come up with something better then that. This from an ADULT see not all ADULTS are the smartest people. At some point in time don't you think you should just admit when you have lied. Oh I see it is ok for you but not anybody else. It is ok for you to put shit about his family all over the net but if something is said to you then you are owed an apology  ::puke:: ask Alex about that he will know and you probably know what I am talking about.

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I will tell you right now, I had my mother fooled for probably a whole 6 months.  Now, how long did Alex have his parents and family, including you, fooled?  I seem to remember the word YEARS in the time frame somewhere...


Please Ashley I am not that easy. This is the last you will hear from me on this site. 6 months is all you will admit to because that is what you had to fess up to because of getting caught. We all make mistakes remember first part is admitting them. Not only the portion you wont.
If I didn't tell your mother she would have not known unless Alex told her how horrible would that have been for him. Nice girlfriend you are. I am sure you would have told her so he didn't have to. Easy to say now. Now I wish I didn't.

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  And don't say that I'm bashing Alex or his family, or anyone for that matter.  I just happen to be stating a fact.  I'm quite tired of you trying to make it out like we brainwash Alex into everything he says or does.  Remember, he is almost an ADULT.  Free to make his own choices.  I don't understand how none of you can accept that."




The Fact... why? because you say they are. Whatever you say. Your getting tired? It isn't all about you Ashley look around there are more people involved. So when Alex is an ADULT is he moving out? You act like when he turns 18 it is going to be some big deal or something like all of a sudden he will have a great job a house make enough money to marry you and start a ADULT life. It doesn't quit work that way dear. He could do everything he is doing there at his parents house also where he should be. By the
way he is doing it. HIM not you. I am proud of HIM. What ever decision he makes I owe HIM accountable for even if HE chooses to take his advise from YOU. He is his own person.
 [ This Message was edited by: CaughtInTheMiddle on 2006-05-03 17:05 ]

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It is I the Bad Aunt that posted that. Sorry if you don't like my post. I am very proud of Alex. I also believe he will be successes full in time with some speed bumps in his path. The point of the post was that your mom may not see all the signs if things may start to happen again. Look how long you kept the wool over her eyes it took me telling her. It said NOTHING AGAINST ALEX. Nice how you put a twist on it. He would be successful living at home also. It may even be easier for him. It is not you and your household that is helping or pushing him in that direction.

Alex I know you read this. Call if you would like to talk about this post. I will be talking to you soon. I have my feelings love ya! Fun Cop

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I did say that I was assuming. Everyone
can assume. I didn't try to say I knew
exactly why. Like I said I haven't asked
him.
[ This Message was edited by: CaughtInTheMiddle on 2006-03-24 21:04 ]

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He has talked to us about it.

He said he hasn't read the site yet.
He will when he is ready and has 2
or 3 days.

I think he hasn't because he has been
told about all the crap in the beginning.
I don't think he wants to deal with that
yet. I could be wrong. I haven't asked
why he hasn't I am just assuming.

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Yes he is living with Leslie and Ashley.
He is doing good from what I see and he
tells me. He told me he isn't ready to
read everything or post yet. Maybe someday.

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Then keep waiting. He isn't ready to post.
Who knows he may never be.

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On 2006-03-11 11:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Eudora, what part offended you? What part have you contrubuted to helping the young man? Other than your past experiences.  If you can't bring anything to the table, then get off.  This is where your forum is screwed up.  A narrow minded mentality. "


I SECONED THIS. Just a way to try to get back at her parents maybe? Who knows.

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This is stupid. I just talked to him. He is doing good. He has goal set and is moving towards them. He will post when ready. One of his goals is to be with his parents. They are talking and working towards it. Of course Alex has things he has to deal with right now, and always will it is called life. We all do. So saying things about his parents and aunts I don't believe is helping you at all. He does no us and if he doesn't agree he still realizes that we do love him will always be here for him no matter what. Sorry you didn't have that with your family.

He mentioned no abuse to me. When he is ready he will post if what he says by then changes well then it does but as of now he said there was no abuse. Which should be a good thing. But not on this site! I am done for now.

Alex, if you do read this. I love you and will always be here you can call anytime. I know I told you that on the phone a few hours ago. Just so you remember! Keep up the great work on moving forward you can do anything once you set your mind to it.

over and out,
THE FUN COP

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On 2006-03-08 21:48:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"It got awfully quiet!!!!!!! It's kinda nice though. Those Aunties of his can go back to their boiling caldron.



 :lol: "


Your such a BITCH you knew I was on vacation. But I am back guess what it may stay quite. Back to our boiling caldron? Ya I am the bad Auntie sorry but you still have no idea half of what has happen.
I can see why step mommy had you sent away!

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Yes I did agree and still do that she must have been scared. Like I said I have nothing against either one of you. I also don't care that you are more of a friend with her then parents really I don't like I said what ever works for you. I have a hard time getting my feelings across I guess it seems like what I was trying to say isn't what you heard I am sorry. I guess if I use someone other then you as an example maybe it would sound better.
I guess what I was trying to say was there will always be people that don't agree with the way other people do things you can always find people who think the same thing is good and others think it is bad.  
I re read my post and still haven't figured out why you think all of a sudden I don't want him out. I am very happy he is coming home. I wont see him right away seeing it fell on my vacation. But that is ok he needs time with his parents.
I guess we will see what happens with us. I guess that when you say things like ..Ashley was not locked up and forced to confess everything to us.  It feels like a cheep shot. maybe I am not sure how to take it. I have never told you I felt you were wrong on the way you handled things with Ashley. I have always said it is your choice she is your daughter. I am sure things will work out with her she is a smart kid.
Well I have a bad headache again and my little one is fighting going to sleep and I have to get ready for my vacation. I hope that cleared things up if not we will talk later.

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Leslie,
  I wasn't trying to say bad things about you or Ashley I was pointing out that they don't know all of it. Sorry you felt I want you to explain. It really isn't these people business.

If you are happy and willing to take the consequences (should it fale) on how you handle this with Ashley that is great! You know how I feel about that. She is your daughter it is your choice you know her best.

Same goes for Jacki.

Even though I have talked to you a lot I really don't know you. Just like these people don't know Jacki but judge her only on the fact that Alex is at SCL.  

"Ashley was not locked up and forced to confess everything to us."  
She had to it was put there and Alex was coming home. But I am sure you believe it was because of you open communication. That is probably what I would see if it was my daughter. What ever works for you.
You also didn't have people like her boyfriends parents getting overly involved. I do find this strange. I would never I don't really know because I haven't experience it yet but I don't think my daughter would be talking to her boyfriend until he figured things out with his family and could show maturity and progress. Plus I would be 2 busy taking care of her. To get so involved in someone else's family. At least that is how I think I would handle it. I also believe if put on a site of all the things I do know and in hateful content. I could find people to disagree with how you seem to be more of a friend then a parent and how this can back fire on you.

I do wish you and Ashley the best of luck. I don't want to see any teenager screw up their life. I really have nothing against you or her. I understand that people handle things different. I guess I wished you understood also. I know you have only been nice to me to get info on Alex and I am ok with that. I have been doing it more for Alex then anyone.
I guess I am no longer needed for now. We will see how things turn out. Lets just pray that he has figured things out and now clean will continue to move forward.

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"old druggie girl friend is winning hard fought academic awards and career starting merit in the real world." That is great if she keeps it up.

I don't see her as an old druggie girl friend. I see her and Alex as young adults that got caught up in some bad drugs. You only know what they want you to know about her. There is a lot you have know idea about. It isn't my place to put that info here. Nobody would benefit from it. Just as nobody benefited from the things they said about Alex's mom to get your attention. It isn't my place to state some things that really happen. Things she chooses to lie about or chooses not to say. She will have to live with these things. It is between her mom and her, and Alex and her.

"Maybe he was more sober than ever, more sober than you ever dared to be, by challenging your paint by numbers world view. Do you dare think it? No, I guess not. Far easier to think that he lacked the "tools" to see things your way."

What are you talking about. Wow some things you say. Ya he was sober we just didn't wanted him anymore. Like your family. Is that what you want to hear?  

"Or will they see themselves as being above the law and agree to have him shipped to Jamaica or Costa Rica?"
I guess we will just have to see.

"I was the little blond super Seedling on the parents' side. They called me "the chicklett". Were you there?"
Well lets see hmm I have only said like 100 times that I have never been in one of these programs and didn't know anyone who was so I guess the answer would be NO. But you already knew that didn't you? Are you reading the things I write? If you were the chicklett then this was a long time ago. Let's hope some things have changed.

"He can do it, and he loves you. Have faith in that."
I know he can and I hope he loves me and hopefully through all this we will have a stronger relationship.

"They're lying to you to save their own egos. Don't fall for it!"
Sorry but they are not lying to me because I have never talked to them![ This Message was edited by: CaughtInTheMiddle on 2006-03-02 04:40 ]

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On 2006-03-01 21:05:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"CIM  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy:: "


this really shows how much you have grown up. in your 30's you say...hmm

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On 2006-03-01 21:00:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"Okay, I have a few minutes to respond since my hubby is having me Tivo Deal or No Deal in the bedroom, and I prefer American Idol.





My Aunt had NO CLUE what type of place I was in, and what was happening. She thought I was at boarding school having a great time, and since I could call no one except for my parents once a week, I couldn't tell her where I was.



Furthermore, I didn't run away with an address book in hand. Address books don't exist in these places.



I lost touch with my family over the four years I was in these hell holes. I thought everybody had disowned me. I thought nobody loved me. I felt alone. It was horrible.



Back then, there was no such thing as the internet. Cross Creek (WWASPS first school) had just opened, so nobody knew much about it. You have the ability to research anything, and everything you want about these places, and you do. The funny thing is you are in denial. These places are as awful as everybody says.



This time, I swear, is all folks!!!



Goodnight!



Surprised to learn my pare

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This is what I mean she dodge it again. soo agian how did her Aunt save her? She thinks I can save Alex the same way. what wait until he gets out and I learn what has happened to him. duh what do you think I am doing. I dont care how rich you are you can't buy brains.

I love how you can jump on me for doing nothing when there is nothing I can do. But you seem to just egnore the fact that I do think it is wrong the way you were treated I want you to call your dad and tell me he is a dick for choosing a wife over his daughter. I agree really you should have never spent 4+ years there nobody should. I also believe that 12 years old is way to young and a bad time in a kids life to be sent to one of these places. Unless he was killing and raping people. Do you give me credit for that hell no. It is all your way or no way.

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On 2006-03-01 20:36:00, Eudora wrote:

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On 2006-03-01 13:50:00, CaughtInTheMiddle wrote:


Gotta love the internet I learned how to read IP's



ORLY! Care to tell me how you're hacking my server to get that confidential info?

By 1940 the literacy figure for all states stood at 96 percent for whites. Eighty percent for blacks. Notice for all the disadvantages blacks labored under, four of five were still literate. Six decades later, at the end of the 20th century, the National Adult Literacy Survey and the National Assessment of Educational Progress say 40 percent of blacks and 17 percent of whites can't read at all. Put another way, black illiteracy doubled, white illiteracy quadrupled, despite the fact that we spend three or four times as much real money on schooling as we did 60 years ago.
--Vin Suprynowicz


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I have friends in low places

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